I think the pass-through's a nice idea, but I'm put off a bit by a predictable layout of the main area that scrunches the most-used areas together and wastes the views and light of the bottom right corner on a dead-end pantry. That's prime real estate! How about shaking it up just slightly by, say, running that sink counter all the way down to the front corner of the house? That'd give you a window and view, with breezes, out the front and make the house feel larger by not stopping the eye so soon. The cleanup, with its mess, could slide down its wall that direction, not all the way, just an "aesthetic" distance away from dining. There're various possibilities for the rest, but the stove could move over to the outside wall opposite the long side of the island, and the refrigerator could slide over a bit to stand opposite the end of the island, or at least closer, so that both appliances would then be very close and accessible to each other and where you work on the island. Depending on how far you slid the sink down, you might create room in the front corner for another function, a planning/musing center, baking area, or...? Don't discount the room you'd still have left for food storage. The wall to the left down there would be like a walk-in pantry in that it'd be private and walk-inish, and well-engineered storage on that wall alone would hold enough to take a family through winter. (Assuming a freezer somewhere else, of course.) The outside/sink counter might stop at the corner for good accessibility to counter and cabinet (and window) all the way down, or wrap around the corner below the window. Here's a link to a kitchen that does this sort of thing with its long counter. Here is a link that might be useful: Mamadadapaige's magic mystery corner. This post was edited by rosie on Thu, May 30, 13 at 15:59

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how many formats have you drawn up without the peninsula? One note as well, there is no patio door....is it true the only passages to other rooms are down from fridge and next to range...[nothing going outside??].As per rosie, once you eliminate peninsula, I would look at range placed between two windows on long wall, a rearrangement of sink and fridge, but you'd gain the several feet on inside wall.... down from fridge.....place a small sink there and a slightly smaller cleanup sink further up on long wall,for example. The reason I might do it without peninsula is the fact of the closed space....especially banquette end,,,,,and I would want a lot of options with banquette table/bench and chairs around it.....the peninsula seating doesn't provide you with anything the banquette can't accomplish with it's variety and number of seating positions....It seems it will be a destination and I would want to maximize that.

remodelfla: I only use the microwave to defrost (when I didn't have the sense to pull the item into the refrig a day in advance), or to reheat leftovers that I don't feel like using the oven, hob, or toaster to reheat. If it wasn't for those occasion where I am feeling lazy or needed to shave some prep time off things I wouldn't bother owning a microwave. You are right about the landing though, I only gave it about 16" of landing to the right, which is partially because I figured I can use the eating bar as more storage space if needed. The kitchen is huge already and I'm trying to shave space where I can. Worst case I can move items to the island maybe off the hob. I might yet add some space though, thank you. :) bmorepanic: I never thought about that, my top is only about 18" and I can see that being a major issue. I haven't owned a raised eating bar yet but think they are quite aesthetically appealing. The hob is going to be induction to ease some safety issues, but I may still make the bar level. To the prep sink, I have the kitchen divided into a cooking and a baking area atm. That way one person can be baking while the other is cooking. My SO is an amazing cook and quite often I will run into her in our current U-shape kitchen with about 50" between counter fronts even when we are working on opposite counters. So keeping the prep sink is expensive, but I really wanted to save people from having to share one sink or walk across the kitchen to add a little water to the mixer. Plus I have to have a water line to the ovens for their steam assist feature anyway. I'm hoping I don't need a disposal for the prep sink as the baking area shouldn't have anything that warrants one? And the trash cans I will be mounting with a false toe kick so they have more clearance. The pantry is best explained by the fact that my current pantry (which is a 24" that I installed large pullout baskets for) is so well organized that if it weren't for the fact I have to look to weave past various bottles and boxes to get at stuff in the back and lift them up enough, it is so well organized I know exactly where things are and wouldn't bother looking to grab. My hope is that by making thinner pantry pullouts that aren't baskets means things will never be wore than 2 wide and thus everything is just a matter of knowing what is where to have it at one pull and one grab. I will include a link of my storage map to example later. (it shows where pots, dishes, utensils, etc are going) I do need to rethink having countertop space near the pantry though, incase I need multiple items. I only use the mixer for baking, I hand whip anything I typically cook. So the mixer is in the baking area and the food proccessor is on the cooking side. Thinking about it now though, when baking I do use the food pro sometimes... that may become an issue. Lastly, the aisle. The mudroom located to the east has a hall on the side not connected to the kitchen that heads to the Powder room, laundry room, and then the great room. So hopefully only those needing to be in the kitchen will be travelling through the kitchen. Plus I like to be able to pivot and be able to reach the opposite counter when working, 48" is too much of a stretch. Thank you for all the feedback! I hope I get many more people as thoughtful as you. :D rhome410: All the swinging doors are pocket doors and all shelves are pull out in teh base cabinets (should have mentioned that earlier). I know it is much more expensive to do, but I plan to build the cabinets myself, so the only real concern is wasted space. But the kitchen is huge so I think I will still have plenty of storage despite the need for false walls. I may just yet move the prep sink to the island to exactly where you mentioned, the far right side. I figured for ease of plumbing it would be more practical to keep it near the steam assisted oven that needs a water line anyway though. (Any arguements for or against the two position possibilities?) As for the main swap you suggest and all the shifts it would entail. That is precisely the reason I made this thread. I have an alternate layout very similar to the one you suggest that I should probably through together in CAD instead of hand drawn and post it. I will try to get to that this afternoon when I get home. For storage, let me also post the storage diagram I have this afternoon as well. The dishes are all stored in the wall cabinets on teh south wall atm. I have been debating breaking my field of view to the great room with hanging cabinets across, but I really would prefer not to block the view with any more than the hood for the hob if I keep the hob there. (which is looking less likely thanks to all of the feedback) Thank you all again, please keep up the bombardment of good ideas!