A thermal/vapor barrier? Remodeling our walkout basement
happyallison
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Puzzling items regarding near future basement remodel
Comments (4)1) It is advisable to insulate and air-seal the exterior walls of the unfinished rooms, at least down four feet from grade. This will save heating costs and eliminate condensation and the mould it feeds. To cut costs, you can use expanded polystyrene (EPS) and cover it with intumescent paint. 2) There are a variety of sleek metal and plastic doors/covers for exactly that purpose that pop off for service. 3) There's no more need to have access to pipes in basement ceilings than there is to pipes running through the walls and ceilings in the upper floors. However, do be sure to cover the pipes in foam sleeves to prevent "sweating" in summer. This is a frequent omission that you can spot by the line of water spots on the basement ceilings. 4) Put the plates on top of the XPS. The foam board provides a thermal break and keeps moisture off the wood or light steel studs. 5) The new door has to meet the Code for an exterior door. Exterior doors are typically not fire-rated. 6) Not sure what you mean by "freestanding heat". Electric baseboards work fine. But in the long run it would likely be cheaper to run new lines to radiators in the basement. (I'm assuming you have water/steam heating.) 7) In almost all basements, a mechanical dehumidifier is necessary to keep humidity levels below 50% RH in the summer. Here is a link that might be useful: Building Science Corp. on Renovating Basements...See MoreWhat To Use As A Vapor Barrier in Attic Using Rock Wool
Comments (20)I think the guy with the old house air leak philosophy is basically saying it is important that the old walls be allowed to dry to the inside and the outside like they always have but that only works for sure in mild climates or if there is no insulation in a cold climate. With insulation installed in a cold climate, the interior side of the exterior sheathing becomes cold enough for moisture to condense against it before it can pass through to the very dry (in winter) outside. If an interior vapor retarder is omitted, the exterior sheathing must be highly permeable (no, I'm not going to say breathes) and that may be the case with old style horizontal boards or beaver/buffalo wood fiber board. Omitting the vapor retarder can sometimes work if all the other elements are right but I would add a coat of vapor retarding paint on the interior to slow down the passage of water vapor in the winter in rooms that have a lot of moisture. Think of water vapor as trying to equalize itself just like air pressure only incredibly slower. For me, the irony of all this is that interior air in old houses in New England is so dry, chairs are constantly falling apart so the idea that moisture would condense in a wall cavity is pretty far fetched except near a shower, a sink, a dishwasher, etc., or if the HVAC system has a really good humidifier....See MoreHelp with my heating plan for lower level walkout we are refinishing
Comments (7)If the concrete floor is damp from moisture seepage, then the humidity level in the basement should be fine. It actually may be too high and may need a dehumidifier in the summer. Part of my basement is finished. I had a carpet and pad installed a few years ago. I specifically told the installer I did not want a pad with a moisture barrier. My thinking was that if the concrete were to become damp due to high rainfall then I did not want the moisture to be trapped below the padding. Ideally the moisture passes through the carpet and padding and the portable dehumidifier I have in the basement would dry out the air as needed. I was worried trapping any moisture would create a potential mold problem. So far it has worked well for me....See MoreVapor barrier is UNDER concrete; do I still need one on top for LVP?
Comments (3)It is a requirement. You still need it and here is the reason why: We ALWAYS ASSUME that the "underslab" vapour barrier HAS BEEN or WILL BE compromised at SOME POINT in its life. We don't know when, we don't know how badly, but it will happen. Heck, it can happen WHILE they are POURING the concrete. Or when they are spreading concrete. Or when tree roots grow underneath the concrete, etc. So, the moral of the story is: always use vapour barrier (6mil poly sheeting = $0.11/sf at HD) over slab on or below grade when installing rigid flooring. It is the CHEAPEST FORM of "warranty saver" you will ever have. I promise you, that vapour barrier will come in REALLY handy at some point in the house's life span....See Morehappyallison
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