Mac's Black Jack
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Comments (1)Yes, yes, and a very good variety, productive and nice fruit size and quality....See Moreblack spanish and black jack same fig?
Comments (6)Small, thin skinned, sweet figs - sounds like Celeste. Brought to mind an article by A.J. Bullard in the Southern Fruit Fellowship newsletter (Issue #5 1989): "It so happens that the two fig varieties most commonly grown east of the Mississippi are the two most confused...It seems Brown Turkey got the inside track with figs early on and became the Frigadere of refrigerators so to speak. Nurseries mislabeled Celeste as Brown Turkey - some by honest ignorance and some to sell Brown Turkey figs which customers called for. Some major nurseries didn't know the difference." "Both varieties are adapted to the Southeast so why does it make any difference?" "First as my fig Guru Paul Starnes says, don't ask a fig owner what variety he has because he doesn't know but calls it Brown Turkey or Celeste (Sugar) - usually having the varieties reversed." ...."Celeste is the most common fig grown in the Southeast and is somewhat more cold hardy than Brown Turkey....Celeste trees stood that had been hurt very little in over 40 years enduring at least one zero and one 1 degree F ...without much kill-back if any....The owner said the Celeste had never been killed back in its 40+ years but the Brown Turkey, 'got killed back to the ground every few years'. Same exposure, soil type, climate, etc...." "Brown Turkey will bear fruit the first season after being 'leveled' on sucker growth while Celeste won't. Brown Turkey also will produce a Breba crop if the terminals aren't killed back much in addition to a main crop. Celeste almost never (Dave Ulmer) has brebas to mature....The Turkey brebas are larger than the main crop figs and much larger than Celeste. Turkey brebas are often 'lop sided' but to my taste about like the main crop. Celeste figs are more symmetrical, smaller and sweeter than Turkey." "One ID I find useful with developing furit is that the scales around the eye of half grown and over Turkey figs are pink or red while those of comparably sized Celeste figs are green. The eye of mature Turkey figs is somewhat open while Celeste is closed and is therefore a better keeper - resisting souring better. Celeste seems to have a longer stem than Turkey but the skin color isn't a whole lot different." As to leaf shape both are classified as 'grape' leaf .....but a common basic difference exists between the most typical leaf type of Celeste compared with Brown Turkey. Sometimes to see this difference more clearly one must examine sucker growth or new growth resulting from heading back old limbs. Celeste leaves are slightly broader and tend to have more serrations. Turkey leaves are slightly more elongated and tend to have few serrations per lobe."....... "I find Celeste the M.V.P. of figs and an excellent stock to graft less cold hardy varieties onto to make them hardier." Marcantonio, Does Celeste sound like your tiny and pathetic fig? Ripening early September?...See MoreNEED A NEW FORUM
Comments (35)Joanne You have to log/sign in before you can see the edit pencil. It is in the upper right hand corner of your posts, up by "delete." Also, I seem to notice the edit pencil disappears in older posts. You may have only so long to edit. Dave's Garden is Great but I haven't found it be a viable forum, chat type, like this. It is great for trades. I traded trees and received some good deals but I haven't traded AV's. I bought a new white noid possibly Ontario. It is white but the older flowers show a trace of pink blush. Is that Ontario? It is a simple white, nothing to write home about, so I won't post a picture. Also, very isolated, I checked it out carefully once I got it home and I am suspicious of thrips. Very Very Isolated and will remain so for many a moon!...See MoreShriveling dwarf black jack fig tree
Comments (7)Hector the tree was stressed and the leaves curled , what you see is the tree protecting itself now dropping the figs which was already pre determined from the stress. By keeping it next to a wall you created a micro climate such as some Northern growers do on purpose because of cool weather. If plant is on concrete put it on grass which is cooler and gets air circulating. You can stick a skinny stick into pot to bottom and pull out to make sure it has enough moisture, Growing figs in containers root pruning is a must every so many years i hate it after growing figs for many years otherwise plant will decline as water etc will run off to the sides and out any drain holes and the roots circle in container and start to choke the plant. Martin...See Morebloodyfrancois
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