Here are my thoughts Ray. I think in principle what you propose is an excellent and workable proposition. Being Devil's Advocate for a while: Running a website takes a fair bit of time so you would need to have someone dedicated to adding the data and uploading it as well as implementing the design, promotion and maintenance. Getting it set up is hard work. Getting people to find the site is becoming harder because there is so much stuff out there, so some marketing skills comes in handy. Getting links on the millions of other dedicated sites is one of the best ways - I get about 500 visits a day to my site and 40% are from links, the others are from search engines, but then I sit fairly high in the Google ranks because I pay for advertising with them. These are all considerations. The other trick would be to get Peter Cundall or someone similar to do a feature and lend his profile to the project once its up and running. The logistics of setting up the site ( searachable database software would not be hard to find in fact I'm researching possibilities for my own plants and planets database) I have some items on my website that 16 year old college students helped me to install as part of their projects ( their teacher lives next door! )and the students are very useful to have around because they haven't got the materialistic bent that Uni students have who want to be fed like gremlins. Costs: The first thing would be to get an ISP that is willing to give the webspace - the usual 'home page' type of free space that comes with a lot of servers wouldn't be enough I suspect. This may be difficult because you would first need to register an appropiate name ( probably a .net or .org ) and someone would have to be the registrant. I'm not sure if a .net allows for a 'group' to register. I suspect .org has to have a committee style set up or even be an incorporated body. Mine is a .com and I had to be a registered company to get a .com which is picked up better than the .com.au by search engines. Solution to that might be to get some funding from an appropriate body. I have clients who are into that and can make some enquiries if you like. To get funding though would need to have a proposition outlined so as to maximise on the fund that are available through government nad quasi government bodies. But then there is level at which they would want control. I mentioned clients whom obviously I can't name ( astrological consults are billed as environmental consults but that's cool, they pay well). I could contact one or two and see if they might be willing to support the project. ISPs are constantly being taken over so you need to go with one that has a stable platform. For example, I started my site in 1996 with Webnet, which was taken over by Southcom which was taken over by Keypoint which was taken over by Eftel. Somewhere along the line, the helpful people got lost in a sea of technical push button talking heads. So...

If you plan on selling little arrangements. I would keep to common things like Sedum or hybrids with Sedums, simple everyday Echeverias/hybrids, Graptopetalums, Sempervivums, Senecios, and Kalenchoe. Plus these guys never really go dormant all that much. If they're getting sun and water they will grow. So generally they would do fine together. Just warn people about the harsh sun. Since summer is on it's way for you:). Semps I find for me in the summer need a little protection. Also Strings of pearls or strings of whatever don't look their best with direct all day summer sun. I would just tell people full morning sun afternoon shade. Just to be safe. You usually can never go wrong with that answer:). Here's something I did lastnite in the dark with a flashlight. I'm in a hurry to get cuttings and whatever I have hanging around a home. It's kinda nice doing things in the dark. You wake up and it's a nice suprise. Normally if I was making an arrangement for someone who is new to succulents I wouldn't cram them so tight, but for me it's ok:).

Vesfl - cdb is one of my favorite colors ! I planted two this fall , but didn't get photos . I also planted a ville d Lyon as well and it's settling in . Yours look great !! wirosarian gosh that gate looks so welcoming with the clematis! Beautiful! Sjn- I second brushwood ! Also bluestone has great sales . Don't pay full price on Clem's because they will almost always go half price before spring . Great value ! And another fantastic one is silver star vinery. The size of her plants was fabulous! Marlorena - I'm glad you liked mine! I really wish I could find an ID on the one . It was on clearance because it had no tag and any photo search I have done hasn't turned up a match. Rosy lady your urn idea is a great one! Never would have thought of that . I had saved this photo to remind myself to try this, maybe you'll like it too . I got one of these tubs for 5$!! At a yard sale so I think I may do this . Another no id clearance This was labeled comptess d Bouchard but I'm not sure that's what it is . This was a late fall bloom so maybe the cold brought out the stripes? Oh marlorena I meant to say andromeda is great but really small . It took 3 years to reach the top of my 4 ft trellis .so you may be able to tuck it in somewhere! It blooms twice for me and did try to put out a thrird round this fall but we had a week of frosts way before normal . happy jack

Here in my Southern Ontario, z5b garden it's hard to choose. SO MANY roses are just marginally hardy here, and so a little bit of extreme winter weather can kill them, whereas most winters will not. A warm period followed by a later freeze can also kill them. So do you take a chance, or do you skip such a vast number of great roses? We have overcast, wet, humid weather here a lot and there is blackspot like crazy. And of course this area is swarming with Japanese Beetles. During the height of their swarms I can pick/shake off over 100 day, which is a lot for my ~20 roses. Some will have none. Some will have dozens. Every year I wonder why I put up with it. Then every June when the first flush hits and before the big problems come I remember why.