Well, I guess I will probably leave out the Iceberg! lol I had my doubts about that one. I have also bought ramblin red, and william baffin which I will stick to. I was trying to find a pure white rose, a climber, to go with the red and pink of the other two. I don't really care if they are fragrant, as I can't smell very good anyway (sinuses always clogged up lol). I have a 6 ft high, 20 ft long trellis that I will be planting these on. Or do you think just the ramblin red will fill it in enough? I hear that both ramblin red and william baffin can get pretty long. Thanks, kentstar

I have no idea about hardiness to zones, but Frau Karl Druschki is white climbing America. It is a lovely rose in my zone with apple green foliage and pure whitest blooms. It is an HP.

jacqueline9CA Those are fantastic pictures! I hope I can eventually create something so tranquil. It looks liken you paired it with maybe a Jackmanii clematis? It seems they pair really well together. I actually have been thinking about planting a rose with my jackmanii. Have you had much trouble with them overpowering each other? It looks like it also gets to be in the 15' range for height for you? Do you zigzag it to increase the horizontal lengths to increase blooming? I am trying to think how I could incorporate it with my jackmanii and still get good coverage on the large lattice I have set up. I didn't think I wanted something that would be big.... but maybe I do since I have a 4' by 14' lattice with the clematis, and so far the clematis doesn't fully cover things up yet so it makes me think I could afford to over plant here. Patti W - Thanks for the heads up about potential cane hardiness issues. I am in Boise Idaho, so its naturally pretty dry here, which is nice that disease pressure doesn't seem too terrible relative to what I hear for others around the country. So far this winter we have been mostly in the 20's Fahrenheit for lows, but the last few days have been in the 0-5 degree range for the lows. I am trying to be extra conservative to my already conservative guesses for climbers. Iceberg blooms on old wood I am reading so cane hardiness is definitely something I care about.

Lala - the pink rose you circled in the pic is 'Climbing American Beauty' (which is a seedling, NOT a sport of 'American Beauty', and not related to 'Miss American Beauty'. Cl American Beauty (1909) is once blooming, but it blooms very prolifically for a month or so, and then there is scattered bloom for more months on new growth. HMF says it is hardy to zone 5, as it is a Wichurana hybrid. Vaporvac - in Elaine's first pic, the purple rose is Kim Rupert's 'Lauren', and the peach colored rose is Peach Drift (this one is a tree rose which Lauren is eating!). In her second pic, the rose is Korde's 'Summer Wine' (NOT the same rose as 'Summerwine'). Jackie