I'm sorry that was a rather unclear description. By "single" I mean that I am only looking for one rose for that location. Bishop Darlington looks like it fits the bill perfectly - tall, fragrance that carries, repeating, does well in warm climates, perfect for the back of the border. Erf, but it looks like Heirloom doesn't carry it, which is where I was planning to order from with their current free ship deal. I'll have to put it on my wishlist though, as it sounds as though it can be prodded into being a climber, so I may have space for it another time... Any other suggestions?

That depends upon room, Jimmy. If you have a limited space and the once flowering rose is huge, why would you want to keep it? You'd have to whack it so severely it wouldn't flower. It seems more in line with my personal aesthetics to take the ones which flower continuously so the room would be as colorful as possible and which would fit the spaces best. You will soon begrudge something with less colorful time its space, time and other resources. Think of the others in the household, too. If it's big, potentially diseased due to not being able to grow as large as it needs to remain well fed from the foliage cover and wood it needs genetically, and is always just green and thorny, how will your parents and anyone else who views it refer to it? Will they begrudge it the space and water because it seldom pleases them? I'd think they would be much more agreeable to the rose's intrusion on their room if it flowered constantly so it provided them eye candy. Kim

Zephirine Drouhin perhaps: nearly thornless, raspberry smell, but dark-pink. Thornless climbers are a little sparse. Here is a link that might be useful: Zephirine Drouhin

thank you very much for your help I'm sorry for late my sister buy new note book and I must prepare system in her new notebook several days cecile brunner 1 almost owner say to it similar china rose but I wonder if it is cecile brunner why full bloom look like new dawn and I think It similar with hybrid tea too I wonder Cecile Brunner 2 more now it real ? but I love it althought It wrong my unclear rose from my question before have thorn but open bloom is similar cecile brunner I barely know real marie pavie have no thorn now (and Cecile Brunner 2 have thorn too) china rose I think it look like rouletti but tree is not miniature It medium bush smaller my velentine by little now but I use small pot to cultivate it so real size may be bigger this may be equal valentine or may be over valentine this unclear rose open bloom similar cecile brunner in cold weather for short time (regular weather very hot always) It beautiful ? (almost It very hot weather near all year)