I would say repost it Barbararose, but the reality is that absent a "sticky" function, that thread will soon be just another lost thread. One not particularly satisfying "workaround" is to refind threads/posts worthy of note and create a new thread containing a link to the post, and put a "special" word in the new post's title so that word can be used as a search key in the future. (I know of no way to edit the title of a thread without simply reposting it.) Such word could be something like "stickie", or "repost", or "Look here", but it should be a word/term that is generally agreed upon. Unfortunately, without the ability to note "special" threads, even such a word or term will at some point be "lost in the archives". Of course, should the thread that first notes the "special word or phrase" be resurrected periodically for the next nine years, like the now-infamous "death of a forum" thread, it should become 'corporate culture' at the vermicomposting site. Maybe by then, Garden Web will have upgraded the forum software to include a "stickie" function. By the way, there's more to implementing a "stickie" function than just "poof, you now have a stickie function". Most importantly, it costs money because "stickies" 1) increase storage requirements (in truth trivially, but let's do keep in mind that this site is about money, not "goodness"), and 2) "someone" - usually someone called a "moderator" - has to be the arbiter of what gets "stuck". Either Garden Web modifies the whole forum to allow such administrative control to specific people for each sub-forum, or they have to take that responsibility on themselves. The first means more potential for getting hacked, and the second means modifying the forum administration software. Both cost money. As "difficult" as the above might sound, the truth is that simply using a "modern" forum software package would completely mitigate all the 'trouble' associated with the change, and improve the editor and improve the search engine. BUT, it most certainly would cost money. Paul

I love FB. I don't post much there. I like to see what's going on with friends and family. I have reconnected with people I haven't seen in 40 years. I considerate FB a place for lite chat. It is not a place to bare your soul. Just a place to make "small talk' and share pics, that sort of thing. I don't get the fear factor. It's not a site where any financial info goes nor do you have to post anything personal. Plus there are lots of ways to control your account for added security if you feel you must. I really see the irony that many who don't "trust" FB still will come to boards like these and give out all sorts of personal info,post pics of their children and talk about them etc. There is no way at all this site is protected. We can't even edit or remove our own posts here. Leaves me scratching my head.

Okay, great - hmm, I am wondering why it can't be used to ground both outlets, though. I'm reading that sentence as "a ground wire coming from (these sources) is permitted to be grounded to (the ground bar in the main panel). That is, I thought 250.130(c) primarily dealt with where it's OK to ground to, ie, the whole grounding-to-a-water-pipe debate that I don't want to get into, but you know what I mean. Certainly, if I was installing an all-new circuit, that's how I'd do it - pigtail into each outlet - so I'm not 100% sure why that's not OK here? It's fine if it really isn't okay - I'm only REALLY going to be using one of these outlets, but since they're so close and it would be so easy to connect both outlets to this ground wire, it's tempting, for future flexibility. Definitely since I don't think we have any real means of getting a new ground wire up to the second floor, at least until we maybe gut the bathroom! :) I'm going to go ahead and drill my holes in the studs and knock out the spot for the outlet, at least. It's exciting to get some progress!

Good grief I evidently hit some nerves. I definately don't feel superior nor would I want all to be like me. I feel just the opposite. I love our diferences! Feel that I have grown as a person from many here believe it or not. I kinda celebrate our diferences. I love the KT yes it has evolved, it had always welcomed new people that's the fun of it I think. I have been trying to find a better way to convey my "fun" remark so it doesn't sting anyone since it seems it has. I can't explain it. It was not just us posting, we interacted on a diferent level. I miss it. Simple enough. That shouldn't be wrong nor should it make anyone feel any kind of anger toward any that feel as I do. It doesn't mean I like the kt any less. Good grief. Being attacked for feeling a certain way just reminds me of what some called the meanies. It's not nessessary doesn't change anything. I hope new people continue to come...also that old timers would return.