There must be something good about wind. What could it be? LOL Mid eighties here and pouring down rain almost all day -- just the perfect day to visit the Alamo, Governor's Palace, and two Spanish missions with Tammy! ;-) We had a great day anyway :-) and we're very glad for the rain.

Palimpsest - I guess that's the thing, "usually indicated" is just not enough. The strange thing is that many, many IR said they were 'authorized retailers' of this manufacturer, but when directed to the place on their website where they note who is, none of them is. When asked, the IR say they are authorized. It's not true and they're saying otherwise. So relying on what is "usually indicated" just won't work in this instance at least. I remember soon after joining GW reading a post where someone warned of this, of IR claiming to be authorized retailers and then turning to the manufacturer and being soundly disabused of this notion, statements, written or otherwise, to the contrary having zero significance. At the time I thought 'well, so what, just ask more carefully...?'. But I'm beginning to think you *can't*, yet still you lose. Quite truthfully -- and I know most everyone here completely doesn't understand why this fascinates me -- but I'm mostly interested not so much in protecting myself against potential future problems with the product; I'm interested in the meaning of all this rococco selling process; the favored and the out-of-favor: and *why*. Weissman -- thank you. That goes a really long way toward some glimpse of this 'why'-thing. The occasional package "falling off" the forklift I can sort of understand, but it doesn't explain the vast volume of this quasi-authorized selling. What just mystifies me is this explicit system that's supposedly set up, only to be explicitly undermined necessarily by the very ones who set it up. The complicated curlicues just confuse me: why? Seems if it's your product, and you are permitted to and chose to control who sells it, then do so. What's with the "looking the other way"? Why do that and who loses; who gains? I really feel twiddled with; I can't even tell if, when or how I am doing some wrong thing. I appreciate this peep, Weismman. At last some beginnings of an explanation...

So many happy memories of cooking on my Chambers stove for over a decade.... If you think you want ultimately to have a Chambers stove I suggest that you keep it. Why? Because in my experience you will make less money selling your Chambers than you will pay down the road to buy another one. I don't think that the resale market favors individual sellers. Of course the market for Chambers stoves depends on your location. Here in the Northeast I've been trying for four years to sell the Chambers B stove we removed when we renovated. The market for Chambers seems to have dried up.

I am checking into this as well. It seems some UPS, some Fed Ex stores have this. You bring the stuff, it goes into a locked container which is picked up regularly and shredded offsite. In our area I think it is Iron Mountain who shreds it. The price seems to be as best I can determine, 79 cents a pound. My dh called one place that will charge $150 to shred on location. We do live in a development, but there is minimal sense of community- but we are tossing around the idea of mentioning it to neighbors and seeing if people are interested. That could really work,and would be a lot more convenient than putting 2 boxes in the car when we got around to it. Again though, we do need to go through the boxes to make sure that there is nothing we need...........