The answer is Yes. It will take awhile unless you already have everything (equipment wise) that you need. I would still expect to NOT make a taxable profit until at least year 3. I made a profit the first year. I only had 1/3 acre in veggies, no flower and the only fruit was strawberries. Did I make minimum wage, NO. I did cover all of my expenses, since I didn't have many. When I started to expand is when I really needed to add equipment and labor help, along with more seeds/dirt/pots and such. My first year expenses were: seeds and plants -- less than $150, market fees -- $200, didn't have/use a scale that year, had all the tables, purchased bags --$15, gasoline to get to market, gas price less than $2 --$200, labor to son --$300. Bought a used tiller $250. I had some other small expenses that might have added up to another $400 max. That year I sold $1700 and was extremely happy. Didn't make much but decided that I could make more if I expanded. At that time, our market barely had 20 vendors, the last year that I was at that market it had 85 vendors and others on a waiting list. I did very good until the number of vendors increased more than the number of customer did. After that happened, it was more stressful fighting to get that customer's dollar to my stand. Now I market at a much much smaller market, that is growing. I'm not making as much as I was, but the stress is usually lower along with the prices. The key to marketing in a farmer market is to be sure you have a good market with a consistent customer/vendor base and having a great product that YOU can sell to people. If you are not a people person, it does make a big difference. Some people can grow great, but can't sell. Some people can sell, but not grow. Being able to do both, that's what it takes at farmers markets.

I only have experience with Heavenly Blue MG's and they did not do well in a pot. They did indeed insist on climbing and then I think they just ran out of root space because they suddenly stopped growing and flowering.

Getting my grocery list together since I am having 15 here for spaghetti dinner on Sunday. Taco's for dinner tonight and putting together a new chicken dish for tomorrow's dinner. Beautiful day here in the low 90's so hopefully Bobby and his girlfriend will join us this evening to swim in the pool. Shannon will be leaving on Monday morning so have been enjoying everyday with him. Next week will be back to our boring life while at home. Am starting to plan a trip for October maybe to Texas.

I spent the morning cleaning up the yard and driveway. I have a shag bark hickory tree that the squirrels use as a launching point to throw nuts at me and the two dogs! Lots of shells and twigs to clean up. Then I had to take Carmelita in for her final (16 weeks) puppy shot and we scheduled her for spaying on the 23rd. She'll be 4-3/4 months old and the vet thinks the sooner the better. She just needed to weigh at least 4 lbs. and she weighed in at 6.6 lbs. today! She is growing up so fast. Still a little grocery shopping I need to do before my chores are done for the day.