Brenda: I'm about 2 hours northwest of Raleigh. Its not a bad drive from Raleigh to Winston-Salem (where the brugs are). Maybe I could meet you somewhere and we could go together. He said yesterday that hes always interested in getting new ones from overseas, so I imagine his collection will just keep getting better and better. He has a greenhouse, Right now thats about all I know except for his ebay offerings look awesome. I can't wait to go visit. I hope I can hold out til march because I know I'm gonna go nuts and I don't want to risk losing whatever I buy by not being able to get them outside right away. And you know, wildflower has a point - I haven't even asked him yet if he allows visitors, but I got the impression that it wouldn't be a problem. He's been very nice. I'll be happy to take a shopping list with me from all of y'all and if he has what you want available, I'll grab it for you. I'm so excited! Comeon SPRING!

Radovan, never be jealous of another. We all have varying levels of growing skills. Trust me all of us have knocked off plenty of plants before we got it "right". I'm sure you have some wonderful plants in your collection, so give yourself the credit that you are due. If you don't have Euphorbia obesa and live in the USA, I have several 18 month old seedling. Obviously, they are too young to know which sex they are. For the cost of S/H I'd be happy to send you one.

You sure did have a lot of energy. I can't immagine spreading out an entire dump truck full of mulch. Great job half done. Bet you can't wait for it all to be finished.

BUT Mark's Starship is a tc sport while mine is an actual plant sport. ========>>> isnt there an FAQ dumbing down TC [ i put it that way cuz some dummy wrote it ..] .... i will sum it up they take a piece of meristem... which is like an artichoke... strip off all the leaves of the artichoke ... down to the meristem .... so they have the crown to start with .... and sterilize it to within an inch of its life .... so its still the same plant ... they then place that in some jello/agar which has hormones to release dormant buds .... a few weeks later they take it to a chamber and start slicing off little plantlets .... which are still the same plant ... now they have crown + leaves ... then they get a different jar with rooting hormone in the jello .... and grow some roots on all the pieces cut of ... and it is still the same plant ... and now a complete plant with roots, crown and leaves ... in a few more weeks.. when they all might be an inch big.. they move them to liner trays by the hundreds ... and they are still the same plant ... and there you have TC in a nutshell ... now.. because hosta are inherently unstable.. lets say for every hundred of the same plant ... out will pop the weirdo .. centered.. edged.. just different from momma ... and that is how a TC produced sport ... and .. IN THEORY .. would be no different than your sport .. if they look the same ... though in all reality .. only maturity.. and a DNA test is going to tell you if they are exactly the same ... you can divide or stomp your plant.. to start releasing the dormant buds.. to increase your odds of getting the little weirdos .... and eventually.. you will have 250,000 copies of momma .... and a good percentage of sports.. just like the TC guys ... i doubt your are thinking of registering it and putting it on the market.. but in all reality.. these TC guys have swamped the market with hundreds of look alikes.. because each lab names the same sport and takes it to market [God forbid they throw away something that they have this much invested in, even if it is a look alike] .. and frankly.. no one is going to bother to do the DNA to find out ... ergo presto.. a bunch of TC sports of something like striptease.. that all look familiar ... so in specific answer to your question... yes it is the same sport.. until someone else proves me wrong ... regardless ... it is a thrill to 'capture' your own.... you may resume having fun in your garden .. lesson over ken