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Small town living

marlingardener
14 years ago

My husband and I have lived in small towns ever since we married in 1971. There are pros and cons. For example:

Today I went to the local hardware store, got two gallons of paint (which they had noted I had purchased that trim color a year ago, so I got the right color) and some other necessities, had a nice visit with the clerk (who lives down the road from us), and he carried the two gallons out to my truck (I'm perfectly capable, but he is a perfect gentleman).

Then I went to the grocery store, where everyone is helpful, but the choices are limited, even though it is an outpost of the largest chain grocery in Texas. I wanted to make sandwiches for Saturday lunch, but my choices in the shaved meat section was ham, turkey or chicken. Lots of each, but no pastrami, no salami, no nothing but ham, turkey or chicken. The "exotic" pastas like farfalle, fusilli, and ruote are unknown, but by Jove, we have four brands of elbow macaroni in three sizes! The fish selection is three shapes of catfish--filets, whole and nuggets ( didn't know you mined for catfish).

Then I drove home past friends' farms; noted that one had new heifers in the field; and waved to at least six people before pulling into my drive.

All in all, I love small town life, especially if you live in the country and visit the small town occasionally.

Now, how do you feel about where you live?

Comments (33)

  • litereader
    14 years ago

    I loved your post! I live outside a medium-sized city (about 35,000 in the "metro" area). We are surrounded by farms.

    Because shopping is somewhat limited, you can usually run into people you know. Even if you don't know them, pretty much everyone is friendly and it isn't unusual to strike up a conversation with a clerk or another shopper.

    We got a new Walmart a couple of years ago nearby, which attracted a lot of other chains that we didn't have before. It is something of a double-edged sword because big Wally made it difficult for some small businesses -- but, on the other hand having competition made a local grocery store wake up because they lost their monopoly.

    We are not that far from much larger cities, so if you really need something, it isn't too difficult to find it (except in winter sometimes).

    All in all, I like it here. The people are friendly and helpful. My neighborhood is comfortable and safe, with a lot of trees and flowers. A pretty nice place to live.

  • linda_in_iowa
    14 years ago

    This is the smallest town I have ever lived in. We have 51,000 and I love it. I usually run into someone I know at the grocery store. I run into lots of folks I know at the university women's basketball games. I attend a church that has 1,000 members and all 3 pastors know me, not just by name but they know my DS also. The reason they know me is because I volunteer and serve on the Board of Trustees/Property Committee. I love, love, love where I live. The weather is the pits but the cost of living is low, the streets are safe and there are lots of cultural activities. The air is so clean you can smell it and the skies are blue.

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  • sharon_fl
    14 years ago

    I too love my small hometown of less than 900 people, located in the uppermost corner of NE PA.
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  • irishdancersgram
    14 years ago

    DH and I have lived in the same area all our married life, 54 years and it's a very small little village which almost was wiped off the map in the last storm...I grew up on a farm and when we married, DH said he was taking me off the farm into the big city???? Of course our little village does have it's own zip code and Post Office and a fire department, that's it.The nearest grocery store, shopping plaza is only about 5 miles...My DD is the Post Mistress and of course hears everything...She said it's like being a bar tender, everyone tells you their troubles etc. Mostly all our residents have been here forever and then their children take over the house...Everyone knows everyone and knows everything that goes on...It's a very safe place, most of the time, you don't even have to lock your doors and if you do, a neighbor knows where the key is...My DH was born here and said this is where he'll be until the end.....I honestly don't think either one of us could live in a city, this is home.....

  • paula_pa
    14 years ago

    I live in a smallish town (under 5K people) but it doesn't lack much in the way of amenities. We butt up against many other small towns.

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  • LorifromUtah
    14 years ago

    You have a hardward store?
    Cool!

    250 people live in my town.
    1500 live year round in the county.

    There are four communities in the county betwee fifteen and twenty miles apart. The nearest town (12,000) is forty miles away.

    My town is the county seat. We have a post office, the courthouse, 1 drive in, two gas stations (one with a small convenience store) and a small grocery store.
    Our bars closed down about twenty years ago. We have the county senior citizen center and the library.

    When Jesse (who is now 22) was four I drove her to preschool wearing my nightgown, a pair of sweatpants and a pair of snowboots. Her school was three blocks away.
    I got a flat tire.
    A neighbor stopped to help.
    By nine am the whole town know about it.

    I love my town..

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  • pris
    14 years ago

    We moved here 20 years ago from my hometown of approx 1/2 mil people. The population here at that time was approx 25 thou for the entire county. I think it might be 35 thou today. I went to work right a way in the nearest town which is also the county seat and largest in population. I never really did much in town but work and shop and the friends I made were work related along with a few of the closer neighbors. Since moving here the major grocery store has increased its size and Walmart upgraded to a super wm. We recently got an Applebees and we have always had one of each major fast food place ever invented. What's up with that? I love living out in the country and not worrying about the neighbors being in my business or me in theirs but wish the shopping choices were a little more plentiful without having to drive 70 miles to the nearest large city.

    Downsides? Difficulty in being accepted by oldtime residents and the political correctness attached. Although this didn't happen to me I had a fellow employee who accepted the bosses assistance in getting her child into a private school and was ostracized by some of the mothers there. I know larger cities have these same problems but they seem to be magnified in small towns.

  • maryanntx
    14 years ago

    Jammer and I still live in the small town that we were born in...population of 2000. I sometimes complain about it, but it's really a good place to live. People are friendly and caring. We are only 30 miles from a medium size town that has a Super WalMart and a large HEB grocery. I do most of my shopping there. And we're only 50 miles from San Antonio, which is a very large, cool city. I love to go there, but it's nice to come home to the small town life. We're also not far from Austin which is like a whole new world. I love to go there occasionally.
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  • JoanMN
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    We live 4 miles from a town of 3,000. We love it. DH grew up in St Paul, and I grew up on a farm, and we both hate to even drive through Mpls/St Paul, and can't imagine living there.
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  • sandy_in_ia
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    We are only 45 miles from Des Moines (550,000)...and I know that is still small for alot of people, it is large to me, and I am happy when we leave there.

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  • loggerbaby123
    14 years ago

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    14 years ago

    "As of the census of 2000, there were 778 people, 307 households, and 212 families residing in the borough."

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  • tralynn
    14 years ago

    Good Post:
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    Little grocery store, bank, hardware, feed mill, used book store, 2 little gas stations, 3 restaurants, auto parts store,post office, and several farm machinery repair places.
    All kids in one school K-12. Also, 4 churches.
    My DH and I moved here 24 years ago, and we like it in general. We live outside of "town" and I would have to say, that living in the country is better than living in "town."
    We have very nice neighbors, and occassionaly some of the women have a lunch for the neighborhood women. We have alot of Amish neighbors also.
    Our nearest bigger town is about 25 miles away, so close enough when you need to do major shopping.
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    Yes it was a good place to raise our kids, is quiet, lots of wildlife, beautiful,scenery, and yes lots of cows.
    Have a great day!

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    14 years ago

    We chose this town 26 years ago when our 3 children were approaching school age because of it's small town feeling, excellent schools and character. It's just across the river from Philadelphia which makes it a suburb in the typical sense and I guess technically it's a township, a subdivison of a county. Our region is so built up that for the most part you can't tell when you leave one town and enter another. My town is 15 square miles and the population is under 20,000 with about 5000 families. In spite of recent development we still have farms which have been preserved from sub division.

    The town was founded in 1682 and has a strong Quaker heritage, the Quaker Meeting House is at the main intersection in town. We still have many beautiful old homes lining the tree shaded streets. In fact we're officially a Tree City and in 2000 Money magazine named it the number one town. We're only 20 minutes from Philly, 30 minutes from the airport, an hour from the ocean, 90 minutes from Manhattan, and 2 hours from the PA mountains.

    I love the fine old homes, huge trees, small town center, the old cemeteries, the local farm stand, and the history. The Lenni Lenape tribe were the original inhabitants attracted to the area because of it's natural springs. During the Revolution Hessian soldiers camped just off Main Street while retreating from Philadelphia, Lafayette stayed at a farmhouse and one beautiful old home was a stop on the Underground Railway.

    I appreciate the fact that our school system is a manageable size. There were about 200 in the senior class when my kids graduated. That was the primary reason for moving here. We wanted a town with its' own school system where our children would go to school with the same kids they went to church with or sat with in the orthodontist's office or played baseball with in the summer. It's a town where many of the children who grew up here and went off to college moved back when they had families to raise.

    I love the strong community spirit and the volunteers who who organize the activities in town - Candlelight Night, Town Day, the parade, the charitable 5K runs, scarecrow making on the community center lawn, Easter egg hunts, the Strawberry Festival, the Blueberry Day, Family Day at the park and all the sports for kids etc. But it is the people who live here, my neighbors who make this a wonderful community. It's a town that I'd love to live in until I die and with any luck one of my children can purchase our home for their own family some day.

  • marlingardener
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    It seems small town life is more than alive and well in the USA!
    It's heartwarming to see all the praise and gratitude heaped on the places we live. The "pros" definitely outweigh the "cons" in small town living.
    A couple of people mentioned that if you weren't born locally, you will always be an outsider. Consider yourselves leavening in the loaf--and you're keeping the gene pool from becoming stagnant!
    I'm glad so many other people are happy with where they live.

  • moonie_57 (8 NC)
    14 years ago

    I also live in a small town and loved raising my children here. Now that they are grown, I'm not as happy. Employment opportunities have always been limited, and now with the economy, it has gotten even worse. Both of my sons are in construction and work has dropped to next to nothing. Usually both of them would work part-time jobs over the winter months when things slowed down but neither one of them are able to find anything. Winter before last both of them worked for a floor cleaning business which has since gone out of business. One of them also worked for a grocery store which is also gone.

    We are 1 1/2 hours from the city, surrounded by several other small towns with alot of closed businesses. I have also been laid off. Now, I think what it will be like for my grandchildren when they reach adulthood. One of my sons tried moving away several years ago. His mistake... not being financially prepared before taking off.

    Too bad neither listened to mom and got a college education. I feel as if they would have had a better chance in another area. However, construction work = paycheck to paycheck. No chance of saving up to move away.
    I hate it here.

    Sorry to be such a wet blanket! LOL

  • FlamingO in AR
    14 years ago

    I grew up in a small town and thought it was great. Now I live in the woods and think it's even better. We're 20 minutes from our nearest town of 2000 and 35 minutes from a bigger city of about 35,000 that's doubled since we moved here 20 years ago. Now that city has darn near everything available that we need so we don't have to go too far afield to shop or get medical services.

    When I'm in our little town, I usually bump into someone I know but even funnier is that that also happens in our bigger town. I guess a lot of our locals go to Rogers to shop, too, although our local indie grocery store has a better selection of foods (and pastas!) than Wal-Mart does!

    The only bad thing about small town life is that if there's a gossip in the family, the whole town will know your business. I got a real lesson in that when MIL was alive and her friends knew all our business, right down to the time of doctor appts. Grrrr.

  • Happy_Go_Lucky_Gayle
    14 years ago

    Ahh. Small Town livin is easy. Under 4,000 population and last week the talk of the town was our 3rd stop light signal. LOL!

    When I go to the Grocery Store I check the counter for Funeral Notices to see if I know who passed away. But, usually if I know someone I get a phone call before the notice comes out.

    If you want Fish you have to go to the Gravel Pits or the River to Fish. We don't have a Fish Market.

    I read the weekly paper in 5 minutes. However, this week we had a 1500 acre Forest Fire and we made the Houston News. LOL!

  • lindaohnowga
    14 years ago

    I'm a country gal and couldn't stand living in a city. We live out in the suburbs, not exactly the "country living" I'm used to living, but we've been here almost 7 years and love it. As of the 2005 census, the population of Fayetteville, GA was 14,363 people. We have our space and privacy, yet within 5 minutes we can be to stores, banks, and restaurants where we've become known. There is no place I would rather be. This is home.

  • cherbo
    14 years ago

    I'm a small town girl all the way. Raised and living in the same town all my life. Population of my town is 450. We are used to traveling a ways to do our shopping and work, it is our way of life.