Eks6426: Like I said in the other thread - your 1 5/8 inch overhang will be fine. Most Fabricators (myself included) do 1 1/2" from the face of the cabinet frame, so an additional 1/8th of an inch is NOT going to be cause for concern at all (IMHO) Sounds like you have a good Fabricator there - especially since your templator scribed the wall where the stone meets it..... As far as your sink goes - the normal "set back" from the front edge of the stone is typically (but not always exactly) 4 inches. This dimension will vary with the sink type, and cabinet configuration. IF you have "pop outs" where the sink cabinet is deeper than the rest of the cabinets - like 1 or 2 inches deeper - the sink set back may be affected. Another thing that affects the sink set back is IF you have a "tip out" drawer in front of the sink - the kind that tilts out and you stick your dish rags and other stuff in there - like cars keys, drain plugs, concealed weapons, etc HA! - THAT scenario may require that the sink then be set back a bit further than 4 inches - the more "traditional" dimension..... other than that - it sounds like you are on track for a good project so far..... my .02 cents worth kevin

I am a Fabricator, and from what I am seeing (based on your posted pics) - here's my " .02 cents worth" : OBJECTIVE 1. it appears that you have 2CM (3/4") thick stone tops, but without a depth measurement - the stone could be 3CM - you will have to indicate wit a pic or measure the thickness of the stone and share that in order for me to make a more accurate opinion on the overall situation (OK... I just read one of the posts from earlier today that indicates that this is 3CM thick stone- Can You Confirm with a pic please) 2. it appears that your overhang is some where in the area of 1" to 1 1/4" from the face of the cabinet - again - a pic showing the measurement taken from the FACE of the CABINET will help to answer this question 3. you have plywood subtops 4. the plywood was "capped" by a wood trim strip - IF this indeed a 3CM job - the plywood is not required (per MIA Design Manual - Version 7 - which I have in my office of my Fabrication Shop, and use and refer to on a daily basis) Marbles wrote: "I thought we discussed a 1.25" reveal, but my GC told me that we agreed on 1 1/8" reveal. I didn't get that in writing, as I have learned I should've. My GC and the fab are close buddies, only the pencil edge is noted in our contract." To this I would say - Do you have a diagram with dimensions noted, or were you shown a sample of the amount of the overhang would be? Based on all of this (and from what I have seen in the past) were your slabs possibly "squeakers" ? = your Fabricator was "just able to get everything to "squeak" by - size wise... your slabs were not really big - hence the overhang being a smaller dimension than the national standard of 1 1/2", or, by design - somebody told the saw man to cut the tops a litlle bit shallow (less than 1 1/2" overhang) - re-reading your earlier posts - I would shoot this theory down too, as your statement you made said "I bought 2 slabs, so there was plenty of space for the layout (my kitchen is on the smaller side)." If this is indeed the case, how much stone was leftover after all of the pieces were cut out? (just curious) Typically - 3CM stone is set directly on the cabinets - NOT on plywood subtops. Does this make for a bad install? IMHO = NO, however, it does show me that someone (Fabricator) was not thinking here, or is inexperienced, or just goofed up = or a combination of all of the above..... Advertguy - plywood subtops are installed ON TOP of the cabinet assembly - never recessed like you described = this would not make for a good install, and would be a waste of time, effort and materials (IMHO). this sink does appear to be supported adequately for my taste (as this is how SS sinks are set for 2CM applications everyday of the week and twice on Sundays... HA! Marble - you should pull out ALL of your documentation from the GC and your Fabricator to see if a diagram or dimensions are documented as to what IS now installed - and what WAS promised. As far as your Fabricator goes = The "This is the way we've always done it" defense does not work when you get to court, (and I hope that your current path does not lead you there), but if it does - you need to have the facts straight and have them supporting your argument. There needs to be some evidence supporting what you got versus what you paid for - otherwise, this while issue becomes a subjective study in personal aesthetics - "what I like is not always what YOU like" In all fairness to your Fabricator - it looks like he did give you an overhang, and the edge of the stone is even or a tiny bit more than the drawer fronts. What is still in quaetion is "who told them to do it this way - or did THEY (your Fabricator or your GC or both) decide FOR YOU as to the amount of front leading edge overhang you were to receive? IF what was installed is what was agreed on - you have no recourse IF on the other hand - you INDICATED a set dimension, and said dimension was NOT delivered - THEN you DO have a case. Your "case" can be as simple as getting some form of remediation because the overhang not what you had agreed to = or a total re-do....... My best advice to you is this: keep things civil and try to be as reasonable as possible under the circumstances, but also - stand your ground if you KNOW that what you got was the wrong goods, but you need to be able to prove it..... HTH kevin

jscozz, What was the title of your thread (so I can go review it?). I do have a bit of a problem following threads I'm interested in, cuz things move so fast on this forum. I also haven't been able to keep anything in 'my clippings'. I think I had them there for awhile, but they're all gone now- not sure if I'm missing something...? The one good thing about the company I am dealing with (I am the GC on our reno), is that they seem to be bending over backwards to make sure everything goes OK. Allright- it HAS been six months since I ordered cabinets and granite, and I STILL don't have all cabinets yet... but the manager has taken over our account personally and has probably spent close to 6-7 hours here (now I know that sounds excessive- but 2-3 hours of that was a second trip cuz we changed our minds about the overhang to go back to 9"- and when he came out to remeasure- he assured us he could do the 12" with rodding and it would be supported well enough- so we went back to the 12" again), just measuring and trying to figure out how he is going to fabricate/cut the granite. He prefers to overkill to make sure everything lasts a lifetime- and I really appreciate his enthusiasm and his attitude- just not totally confident in his lack of experience.

Sorry, for the late reply. I just saw this. No, we've had so many other issues come up with the build that have required all my attention, I haven't had time to focus on this. I do plan to use 30"-36" sinks. I will let the final cabinet layout dictate the sink sizes, so long as we are in that range. If I have an extra 3" of wasted space, I'll go up in sink size, or if I need a few inches for the trash can, I'll go down a couple inches on the sink. The main thing I haven't decided on yet, is whether they'll both be apron sinks or one apron and one under mount. Or, one stainless steel and one fire clay/ceramic/etc? Oh boy, I guess I have a little more left to decide than I thought! I think lead time and prices will point in the right direction on material! LOL! @vevmom, if your island is 10' long, I think the 33" sink will work nicely. That is still less than 1/3 of your island. I think bbtrix's photos above are great for helping to visualize this. (Thanks again bbtrix!) That island is 8' long with a stages 45. You'll have 2 more feet of island, plus a smaller sink. Let me know what you decide.