Sink vs stove in island?
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Comments (28)I think your layout works well, but I'd move the island closer than 60" to the sink. We had a large island with "nothing" on it in our last house and it was great. It had counter height seating on the other side. I don't have exact measurements about how far away the sink was from the island, but I'd guess approx 48". If the pull for your frdge is on the right side, you'd want your landing zone a little further right anyway. If it is s x s or a French Door fridge, then it won't matter. I always prepped on the island and it was great for parties. I'd put chafing dishes the whole way across the other side and the cold stuff on our table with the plates, forks, knives, etc... for elaborate parties, and platters of apps on the island for simpler ones. It gave me a view of everything from there. Someone could be at one end, another at the other, and even someone on the far side if I needed help with the last minute prep that needed to be fresh (crudite, salad, fruit, cheeses, garnishes, etc...). I don't think you need to put anything on an island. Mine was amazing for wrapping presents and Xmas cookie sheets. In our new kitchen, we will have a stove in our 9ft island, but this is a different layout, so what worked in one house is not the same as here. Have you tried a 3D plan of your kitchen? Seeing mine, really helped me to visualize as I "walked" through the space virtually and could spin it from many angles. It definitely showed us what to change and what worked. I used IKEA's although it is glitchy. You could try it as well and just use their stuff and see how it lays out. You don't have to buy a thing to plan a kitchen there....See MoreFridge-Stove-Sink or Fridge-Sink-Stove?
Comments (15)This is actually a very good layout! Kitchen workflow: refrigerator --> prep sink --> prepping --> range --> table (or cleanup sink) The Cleanup Zone is separated from the Prep and Cooking Zones, the Cooking Zone is protected from traffic, there's no zone-crossing while prepping/cooking, and there appears to be ample workspace for each work zone. One question - what is that block to the right of the island? If that's a wall or something else, then you don't have enough aisle space b/w the island and that wall. You don't need two trash pullouts. Set up your island as follows (top-to-bottom or left-to-right): 18" trash pullout + 18" sink + whatever space you have left over for cabinets (hopefully, at least 36") This places the trash pullout in the Prep Zone (where it's used most), near to the Cooking Zone (where it's used 2nd most), and near the Cleanup Zone (where it's used least of the three primary work zones). If you have the room on the island, then opt for a 21" or 24" sink base for your prep sink. The interior dimensions of a sink are usually 1" to 3" narrower than the sink base cabinet. We have a prep sink that's 17-3/4" square and I use it all the time! It's a good size for just about anything. Is it big enough for all tasks, no, but that's when I use the cleanup sink - it's rare that I use the cleanup sink for prepping, though. If the island is supposed to have seating, then be sure it's at least 41.5" deep to accommodate: 1.5" counter overhang + 24" deep cabinets + 1" decorative door/end panel + 15" clear knee/leg space for the seating overhang....See MoreCounter space at sink vs clearance around island
Comments (13)Mark - Thanks for the responses. Not trying to design a kitchen for a pro chef, but neither to be limited to warming a pizza. I don't want to limit it to my habits - the kitchen will probably be there longer than me. I'd like it to generally function for the average person. Regarding adjacenies, towards the bottom of the page is a sliding door to an exterior deck. The walkway to the right leads to the dining, the walkway to the left to the family room. While I agree that posting the entire floor plan may have been a good idea a few years ago, at this point suggestions to change it will only result in regret, as the house is framed, roughed in and gyp hung, so I won't be able to act on suggestions. At this point the only thing I can still change is the cabinet/counter layout. I'd like to achieve something that works for both the average person and my situation in particular. An example of that is we have researched the different locations for microwaves, and settled on counter height in a cabinet - not higher, not lower, not in a pantry. I wish I had realized 24" on each side of the sink was insufficient prior to framing, but I did not. In really focusing on it, it seems insufficient, and my research confirmed that 36" is the recommended min. So I'm trying to solve that. At this point I've only got the space shown. Will probably go with 3'6" (42") clear on either side of the island, netting me 3" each side for a total of 6" extra on the island. Then either a. reduce the cabinets on the right side to 18" deep (instead of 24). Seems like there are numerous micros that will fit in 18" deep cabinets. That gives another 6" towards the island so 24" on one side of sink and 36" on the other. b. shift the sink left to have 18" on the left side and 36" on the right side and keep the standard 24" deep cabinets on the right. Which is better?...See MoreRachiele vs Galley vs Kohler Stages vs Haven vs Ruvati sinks
Comments (17)@J Inhof I know it's been a couple of years, but this discussion still seems relevant to some people! The Rachiele Paragon is very nice, and the price starts out reasonable. But once you configure all your options, WOW! I didn't max it out but pushing $6K for a 48" with 1/8" radius, essentials pack, disposal flange, drain board. That may be a lifetime sink, but this isn't our forever home, so… I'm gonna have to pass. The Rachiele makes the 48" Galley seem affordable, since it comes with all accessories (I love how the company calls the 48 inch "SMALL")! You mentioned you made sure to get the Ruvati workstation sink with radius corners and that drains well… I'm not finding that information online. I think all their offset sinks have a 1" slope, but that's a 1" drop no matter how large, so the wider, the gentler the slope. One YouTuber said their top mount sinks have radius corners?...See Morefunyellow
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