I have no data or experience with any of these, but I have to speculate that a $350 power pack and a 1200 external blower are very likely not equal in flow rate, and that an external blower that had the same performance as the $350 power pack would be considerably less money. I have no idea what exactly a warranty is covering on a liner, weld failure? I see no functional reason why any quality external blower shouldn't be used with a liner given some match between the blower interface and the duct from the liner. I would expect that Broan/NuTone would sell something compatible. But given your plea, I suggest contacting Trevor. With respect to the quote: "Either an interior, in-line or remote blower may be used with Prestige hood liners and power pack inserts. Other blowers CANNOT be substituted." I am having a hard time thinking up an "other" blower option that is not one of "interior, in-line or remote." kas

Well, I went to talk with CPS yesterday morning. I still had DGS & the CPS worker told me that if DIL comes to get him, I should call her right away. My DD19 took the baby home while I was at work and DIL showed up at my work just before closing. I told her the baby is at home with DD and she said she is taking him. (DIL smelled of alcohol... like maybe hung over but hadn't bathed?) and when she came to the house, baby was asleep. She decided to leave the baby and said she'll pick him up when he wakes up. He was still there when I got home but then DIL came back and looked like she had showered. She said she would be back to get his playpen because she didn't have the screws to put his crib together yet. After she left, I talked to my son and he told me she took the baby to her mom's house for the night. (Just a week ago, she said her mom threw her out and wasn't talking to her.. so don't know if that's true) I have tried to talk to her mom & stepdad and they are not receptive to me. Her mom had one conversation while she was still pregnant where we agreed it would be a bad idea for her to move out of state, knowing my son is being deployed. Then, when it came time to move, they were supportive of her moving so I don't get where they are coming from. He also got paid today and it was direct deposited to DIL, not our joint account. (I guess he didn't do the change in time but his next check should go into out account) It makes me wonder if that is a reason her mom is talking to her again (for now) and helping with the baby? In the last week, DIL got her hair done (colored, cut & styled) the day after my son left. Then she got her lip pierced. She was seen driving with someone yesterday by my daughter... she thought it was a guy but DIL drove off too fast. She got her apartment on Saturday but didn't move her stuff in until Wednesday and here it is Friday and I don't know if she is staying there or what she is doing. CPS worker is going to her apartment this morning to talk to her. I guess it's all about waiting now... and worrying. My son is leaving over the weekend and I guess when she called him yesterday (Veterans Day) he was at Applebee's because service members got a free meal. She accused him of going there to flirt with the waitresses and forbid him from leaving a tip. He called me last night to ask me if he eats hard cooked eggs that have been out for two or three days will make him sick. I asked him why he'd want to and he's living in their house with everything moved out so he has no other food in the house. I told him to order a pizza and he didn't want to waste the money. I practically lost it and told him that he's about to leave to Afghanistan and he deserves to order and eat WHATEVER he wants for the next three days and not to worry about what SHE says about it... it's HIS money, HE is working for it and HE is putting his life in jeopardy for it. He ordered a pizza and used the joint account we set up... probably so DIL won't see it. She gave him hell once because he bought a coke out of the machine after he had been under the moving truck, hooking up the car trailer in the heat when he was moving her to Georgia. She is UNBELIEVABLE!!!

Myfam, you're communicating fine. We all have insecurities. PO1: I don't think it's typical at age 30 to be insecure. I think there are a multitude of issues that can make a person react certain ways. There are many people who are never insecure about possessions and many who are insecure until the day they die. In your case, Myfam, (as in my mothers) you and X had things, then you broke up, and now he's with someone who is so insecure she needs to show you what you are missing (ie, things). The thing that my SM and Second Wife don't realize is that you and my mom aren't married to their husbands anymore FOR A REASON. SM is constantly trying to shove my dad's money in my mom's face. It's laughable, really. My SM is extremely insecure about money. And selfish with money. And pretentious. It makes me sick. And DH's family has friends who make the same sorts of comments to me. I've had to grow a thicker skin. I used to cry about it. I think a lot of it is just getting experienced enough to stand your ground. One of my childhood friends married a wealthy man, and I was at their house one day and she said "I own X number of acres" and then she asked me how much land I owned. Now, this is not a "classy" question to ask someone unless there are circumstances that preclude such a question. Not something one asks in front of other people at a party. I laughed, and said "hardly any... I live in tract home in suburbia!" And she turned up her little nose. It was amazing to watch. I was laughing outside and screaming inside. I haven't gone back to her house. She doesn't work. She didn't get her college degree. She married a rich guy. I got my degree. I work as a professional. DH and I have a respectable number of assets for our age. Can't buy love, can't buy class. What I've started doing is approaching it with humor. When I said that to my friend it was obvious that quite a few of the older people there were laughing with me because she was so obviously "new money". Remember that only people who are insecure about what they have will put you down for what you have. Those who are secure will rejoice in your happiness and abilities and want to bring you up. And know you are not alone :)

I think, snafu mcsnurf, that the question to be answered first is whether the outer shell (surround) that is to receive the insert is combustible (e.g., wood cabinet continuation) or non-combustible (some metal structure). In the latter case, the outer shell can act as part of the overall hood function by capturing and funneling the plume to the insert containing the baffles. In the former case, the wood must be covered on the interior and I would argue for covering the bottom edge even if beyond the combustible distance limit specified by the stove fabricator. I imagine that a sheet metal shop could build an insert extension for a wood surround that would mate with a 'standard' insert. Lighting may be a problem is one has to reach too far up into the hood. However, all this sizing really needs to start with some fundamentals, so let me go over them again. For more detail, read the hood threads in this forum back to 2008. Capture area must overlap the cooking surfaces (pan bases, griddle surfaces, grill surfaces, etc.) by enough given the hood entry aperture mounting height that effluent cones from those surfaces expanding at 10-degrees from vertical are intercepted. This is a more fundamental rule than rules based on overlaps defined by the cooktop or stove boundary dimensions. For island hoods, even more may be needed if there are cross currents (drafts) moving the rising and expanding plumes. Containment air velocity at the entry aperture performing the capture should be aimed at around 90 ft/min, which is equivalent to 90 CFM/sq. ft. of hood entry aperture. (Conversion to metric is left as an exercise for the student.) Note: While it is true that induction cooking lacks the combustion plume of gas cooking, and hence has a lower peak effluent velocity at modest cooking levels, all-out searing or wokking will bring the plume velocities close enough that skimping on the containment velocity using induction as an argument will likely degrade containment. The 10-degree number is just a point on the plume shape so gaining a tiny bit of effective capture area expansion due to inflowing air at the hood edges is helpful. Second note: Moving inserts up into a hood surround is a somewhat desperate act, and I would recommend a custom insert as a better approach. Please realize that in the larger hood sizes, the production rate is less than for the 30- and 36-inch sizes, hence fully automated cut and weld tooling is less likely to be used. Thus the amount of labor needed for a custom size should not be a lot more than for some fabricator's standard size, given similar standards of fit and finish. Blower scaling should account for the blower's fan curve and all the system pressure losses going from the stove top to outside and back to the stove top, so make-up air pressure loss has to be planned for and evaluated, along with baffle loss and duct loss. Lacking such an analysis, I suggest that a multiplying factor of 1.5 be applied to the calculated required flow rate to determine the blower's rated (zero pressure loss) flow rate to account for the fan curve and the various pressure loss 'sins' that are likely, but this assumes that the MUA is not too lossy. (In any case, lossy MUA drives house relative pressure negative, which is a safety hazard in many residential situations.) Noise control is another aspect treated in many threads here. MUA insertion into the kitchen to avoid drafts must be performed with care. kas