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size of cabinet door for magic corner cabinet?

13 years ago

For those with magic corner cabinets, how big is your cabinet door for your blind corner cabinet? If the blind corner is that pesky 2' square block of inaccessible space does the cabinet door to the accessible part of the cabinet need to be 2' wide in order for the the blind corner rack to be pulled out to full view? I have been unable to find good dimension information for these types of insets on-line and I'm very not mechanical so I've been having a hard time figuring out exactly how they work. DD is trying to remodel a small kitchen to optimize storage space but since I designed my own kitchen around eliminating all corners I'm not the best source of information for her. All advice is appreciated.

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artemis78

13 years ago

@flseadog, that is exactly the situation we have. If you do a magic corner, you need to reserve some of the 21" for filler at the corner to allow the door/drawer on the opposite side of the corner to open, so you're right, you need a solution that takes a door size of 19" or less (maybe you could swing 19.5" but I'd worry about clearances there). We're using an 18" door + drawer with 3" of wiggle room.

I believe Magic Corner I will work (checked the specs again after this thread!) and Magic Corner II will not work. There are also a bunch of other solutions that will fit, but that don't take very good advantage of the blind space. (Most require a 36" cabinet with 15" door, so if, say, you're us and you have room for an 18" door with a 45" cabinet---you don't use most of that space with any of the gadget solutions.)

Without knowing your daughter's layout, I'd still say it's probably worth it to do a blind corner of some variety over a susan and preserve space for the drawer banks. That's the reason we didn't look at any susan solutions---it wasn't worth it to lose the drawers. Any corner solution is going to be inferior to drawers as a storage space, in my view.

The last option is to ignore the corner completely and just use a bank of drawers on each side with empty space in the corner---most useful if you have an option of accessing that space from the other side (another room, etc.)

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flseadog
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13 years ago
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flseadog
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13 years ago
Bumping again in hopes that someone can give me some information. Thanks.
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Gena Hooper
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Is it Hafele Magic Corner? I have I, not II (I think), and my inside door measurement is 16.5". My cabinetmaker said it barely made it.
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Don't want to hijack, but pickle2, your lowers are frameless, right? So the Magic Corner I cleared a 16.5" door opening? (That's great news if so, since we will have an 18" opening in a frameless cabinet and had ruled out the Magic Corners because the specs said they needed openings of 19+ inches!)
flseadog
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Thanks for the responses. The question for my daughter is choosing between a super susan arrangement with a portion of the opening on each side of the corner or the magic corner arrangement with the opening all on one side. The problem for the magic corner arrange is that she only has a maximum of 21" on each side so she needs something that small or smaller. The problem with the super susan arrangement is that taking space off each side doesn't allow her enough room to fit in a bank of drawers anywhere. It sounds as if there is at least one size magic corner that will work for her. Thanks, again.
Gena Hooper
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