Dish Dring Rack....where to put it??
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Please help me find the right ovens, am I missing any good option
Comments (8)I went through the same exercise a year ago and chose the 36" Wolf cooktop, a Wolf single oven with a Wolf convection/microwave on top. I have been using them for four months and am very satisfied. I chose the cooktop because (1) Wolf has a good reputation for quality and service, (2) I liked the layout of the burners, the placement of the knobs on top and the backlit indicators that a burner was on, and (3) the appearance of the grates which are very solid. I was also influenced by the fact that we are using propane and Wolf makes both an LP and a NG version, rather than having the system retrofit by an installer, which is true for some brands. I cook a fair amount but don't need all the burners to be high BTUs as they are on the range tops. I purchased a separate All Clad griddle which straddles two burners nicely. Previously I had cooked only on electric stoves. The one thing I notice with the cooktop is the need to be careful not to turn the burners too high or the flames come up the sides of the pot and cause scorching. It may be that the Thermador star design is better in this regard as the Wolf burners appear to heat the edges of the pot faster than the interior of the bottom. However, the simmer is fantastic. It never needs to be adjusted. The ovens were a more difficult choice for me. I went with the Wolf in large part because of appearance. My ovens are placed next to the Sub Zero fridge and everything matches nicely. The regular single convection oven is a good size. It bakes and roasts well; the broiler is nothing special. I have put three trays of cookies in at once and they all cooked perfectly. You do have to remove the racks for cleaning. Some GE ovens are attractive because the racks can stay in. I notice that there is much more spattering of grease in a convection oven than my older conventional one. Therefore I remove unused racks when roasting meat or poultry. The controls look complicated but are actually fairly intuitive once you go through them once. All in all an excellent choice but I am not sure the performance is any better than less expensive ovens. I was unsure about the convection microwave. It is, as Wolf readily acknowledges, a Sharp or Panasonic product with an expensive trim kit. The exterior is black plastic and not up to the standard of the regular oven. However, the microwave works well. It has about 100 watts less power than a regular microwave but that does not seem to make a huge difference. I was surprised that I use the small convection oven as much as I do. I use it for warming bread or leftovers and cooking small pieces of fish or chicken. It heats up quickly and is probably much more energy efficient than using the large oven for these tasks. It worked well for baking a single pie crust but I use the larger oven for cakes. I also use the convection oven for warming plates or holding side dishes as I did not get a warming drawer. Hope this helps. Wolf was a good choice for me but I am sure there are other options....See MoreTwo Miele issues (rack rust, and unit running long)
Comments (5)A few days ago the tech came out an installed the new lower basket (6024110), insert (7149700), and middle basket (6218882). He said that it was possible the coating on the baskets might not have been done right, and that is why they started to ware off in a few spots, thus exposing the metal and began to rust. The newer right insert (7149700) for the bottom rack is different than the original right insert (6024130), as the newer version comes up higher on the side and has a small cup rack at the top, similar to the one on the left side where the dishes go. Also, the middle rack (6218882) where the glasses go is a bit different, with more fold-down pieces on the sides and a removable insert (I believe this is the one that came with the Optima or Excella). I also explained to him how last weekend the unit ran all night without shutting off on Fri & Sat. But after that, I turned off the electrical breaker for a few minutes, which seemed to reset the unit, and this past week it ran fine. He said that since all these units run a software program, that it may have had a glitch, that cutting the power reset....See MoreReview: KA DW KUDS30IVSS
Comments (9)I wanted to post an update now that we've run more loads through our new Kitchenaid DW. Normally six weeks might not be much of an update, but posts scroll off so fast (or just get lost these days by the server, LOL) that I thought it would be good to do this before it disappears forever. We are still running the KA a lot more often than our (mediocre) old Kenmore/GE. The fact that it cleans the cookware, which our old DW did not do well at all, means that a lot more big items are put in, which requires running it more often. We still have the issue with the soap dispenser not opening on rare occasions. Again, this very seldom happens, so I've been unable to figure out the "why?" The DW runs such hot water, however, with that stainless tub holding in the heat so much better than the old DW's plastic tub, that the loads have come out almost completely clean even without soap! Egg yolk residue and mashed potatoes are a bit difficult for the DW, although it's a total champ on grease and baked-on casserole crusts. I now soak the plates that have the egg yolk or potato residue with a little water, for a few minutes (while I'm putting glasses and silverware into the DW, for example). Then I load them into the DW - no scrubbing necessary, just a little hydration. The loads have all been on Regular or Pro Scrub cycles. I used the Heavy Duty cycle once but didn't find it was any more effective than the Pro Scrub. Virtually everything that has needed a little extra washing "ooomph" has fit into the two rows on the lower rack where the Pro Scrub cycle is aimed. On those rare occasions when an item is just too big for the Pro Scrub racks, then the Heavy Duty cycle is useful, while placing the item full-face-down on the lower rack. I still do miss the height of my old DW - there's one or two things that simply will not fit into the KA unless I lay it face down which takes up an entire rack. But in all other respects, the KA works like a champ and has made a huge difference in less time and effort spent on daily clean-up. With our old DW, I seldom ran it more than two or three times a week. There was so much it couldn't clean well, or that were too awkwardly shaped to fit. I really appreciate the flexible loading of the KA racks. We have so many odd or large items that are easy to fit into this DW. With the KA, I can run it twice a day because I know it will clean just about everything. Drying: I only have to wait 2 hrs 15 min after I push the Start button, to open up the DW and almost everything is dry (and hot to the touch!). If I wait 4 hours then the condensation drying makes everything completely dry. The one exception is the curved rims on plastic tupperware-type containers. This is because I load the plastic containers upside-down; if I loaded them on their sides the rims would drain, but conversely make it harder for the interior to drain well. I usually unload everything else first, then take the containers out and shake the water from the rims into the sink. They air-dry completely in an hour or so, and then get put away. My nephews Bosch has so far performed very well for them (its only 1 yr old, though) but they are a little unhappy with the smaller interior and long cycle times. We spent close to the same amount of money, but the KA has been a good fit for us. Were very satisfied with it, and hope it lasts, for at least a few years. And yes, we did opt for an extended warranty, just in case....See MoreCommercial dishwashers in homes (residential kitchens)?
Comments (0)[From information compiled, written, and posted in the Appliances Forum by Colin (GW Member Page: cpovey) on 13-24 July, 2004. Many thanks, Colin!] ****************************** A short FAQ on commercial dishwashers in homes (residential kitchens): While some people think its worth the effort to install a commercial range in their house, its a very different situation for commercial dishwashers. In general, you should not even think about getting a commercial dishwasher for a home. Heres why: First, the Pro side: They are very fast. A typical load takes 2-4 minutes. Yes, thats not a typo: 2-4 minutes. Some machines are about the same size as a conventional home dishwasher, and will even fit under a counter. Dishes will be more sanitary than those coming from a home machine, because commercial dishwashers require either very hot water (180 degrees F/82 degrees C) or a chemical sanitizing agent. These include Chlorine, Iodine, or Quaternary Ammonium Compounds (called "Quats" in the trade). Most restaurants use the chemicals, because it is less expensive than heating water. Chlorine is the least expensive, but tears Aluminum pots and pans apart. Now, the Cons: First, commercial dishwashers are mostly sanitizers, not washers. They simply are too fast to really get dishes clean. In the catering company I work for, every load of dishes is run through twice to help insure things are clean. By the way, have you ever noticed in restaurants those nifty looking pre-rinse spray gadgets on springs that the dish crew uses on plates before they go into the dishwasher? Well, they are there for a reason. The plates must be pretty clean before going into the washer. Next, different types of things require different racks. Cup racks, plate racks, utensil racks, glass racks (multiple types needed, because different glasses require different racks), pot racks. Where are you going to store these racks? Four racks take up about the same space as a dishwasher, and you cannot get by with less than three or four different racks. Commercial dishwashers do not even make an attempt at drying. Everything comes out soaked. And you need a space to put the rack and dishes while they dry. They have no food grinders, but filters. Again, things must be pretty clean going in or you get floods when the filters clog. They sound like a jumbo jet taking off. There is zero sound insulation in them. If you use hot water for sanitizing, most require a separate booster heater to make the 180 F hot water. This will require an additional purchase, whether a gas line or a large 240 VAC electric line, and space. And then there is the matter of all the steam when the dishes come out of the DW. If you use chemical sanitizing, you will need space for three gallon bottles to hold the chemicals. Most commercial dishwashers require 240 VAC (as also noted above re booster heaters). Not impossible to provide in a residential kitchen, but another cost. Most commercial dishwashers do not have drain pumps, though some can have one as an extra-cost option. This means that you need a "gravity drain" in or almost in the floor for the dishwasher to drain into, or the optional pump. Unlike commercial ranges, which are inexpensive compared to their home versions, even small commercial dishwashers are very expensive when compared to home units. Lastly, and most importantly, every one I have ever used reuses the rinse water from the first load as the wash water for the second load. This is done to save water. This means that they always have a gallon or so of dirty water in the bottom of them. In a restaurant, it will be used again in a few minutes, so no worry. But at home, it might not be used for days, so there it sits, becoming smellier and smellier. Yes, you can drain them, but then the seals dry out and need to be replaced. In general, unless you feed a small army three meals a day, a commercial dishwasher is probably not a good idea for a home. Especially given their cost, as you can buy three to six good quality home dishwashers in place of one commercial unit. ****************************** [added to Appliances FAQ: 12 August 2004] [last edited: 12 August 2004]...See Moremarthavila
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14 years agoWe have a draining rack that folds up and fits under the sink. The recessed drainboard is great too and we use that when there are just a few items to handwash.
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