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Comments (14)MrsPete, I'll run through the numbers again - I am not too proud to admit it if I made a mistake. I was astonished too! Here's the new layout: currently I have a desk and upper cabinets in the 32"x42" space on the bottom left; the whole room is open to the dining room. The general layout is the same, though I did move the fridge 8" to the left, and extended the range side 8" as well. That makes the fridge stick out past the end of the wall, but it is all enclosed with new built-in pantry, so it doesn't show. The pantry is shown as 10 and 11 on the drawing, and goes to the 8' ceiling. The left side is 20" deep; the right side is 12" deep. The cabinets are framed, partial overlay - with a LOT of frame showing (wasting a lot of space). Currently on the fridge side I have a stack of 4 drawers, the DW, and a 3/4 corner lazy susan (no drawer above). The sink wall is only 10' long, has two 36" lazy susan corners, and a 48" sink base! Obviously it was the cheapest and easiest solution when the house was built - certainly not the most efficient. In my calculations, I did not include that space; it holds my trash can, and I did not include my new trash drawers in the calcs of the new space (I considered it a wash). I also did not include the new sink base (which will be only 30"). In the new design, I'll have a diagonal lazy susan in the left corner (as you face the sink); a narrow base cab for cookie sheets, with a small drawer above; and a 4-stack of drawers. The corner to the right of the sink will be closed off. On the range side, I currently have one base cabinet with doors, and a 1/2 shelf. I'm moving the range a foot to the left, giving me more counter space to the left of the stove, and giving me room to add base drawers on both sides. Admittedly, I didn't give full credit to the existing upper diagonal cabinets - because I can't reach or even see most of what's in there. I know there is junk in the back of most of them, but it just sits there. I expect I'll get rid of most of it when I empty them. In my calculation I used the door width times 12" - the space I actually use. Currently the cabinets go up 7'; the new ones will go to the ceiling, 8'. Just adding that additional foot (assuming one extra shelf all the way around) adds 18 sq ft! The extra 8" on each end of the U adds 5.3 sq ft of uppers (assuming 4 shelves). Above the fridge went from a 12" deep shelf that I can't use without a stool, to a pair of fridge-depth, full extension pullouts: a gain of at least 6.5 sq ft. So I've increased upper cabinet space by 30 sq ft! That's without even skimping on the existing upper corners as comparison. By replacing the single base cab I now have with 2 sets of deep drawers, I gain 6 sq ft. Not counting the big drawers, I'm going from 6 to 10. Three of the new drawers (in a 4-stack) are deeper than what I have now, but that doesn't show up in my math. The pantry has 32 sq ft of shelf space, plus 5 sq ft of drawer space, two 20" deep file drawers, and a space behind doors on the 20" side that will serve as my "desk" - two wall outlets for phone chargers, calendar, bulletin board, place for papers that need attention (currently this all is on the top of my small desk). I do currently have some drawers in the desk, and upper cupboards above, so the pantry space isn't all gain. OK, I must have screwed up somewhere - I'm not getting to a gain of 80 sq ft. I'm still pretty happy with what I'm getting!...See MoreLazy Susan vs. Super Susan??
Comments (25)One thing not mentioned here: The super susan's require you to have one of those annoying, hinged, bifold doors. You get significantly more storage in a super susan but the trade-off is that awkward door. I just had a regular lazy susan installed because the doors are attached directly to the pie cut-out and spin with the unit. Decide what is most important to you, storage or a rotating door. In my case I knew that hinged door would make me psychologically unstable. The pictures from my cabinet company showed the regular lazy susan with the same awkward hinged door as the super susan, but I asked and it turned out that the revolving door was a no-cost option. I know this thread is old, but the door difference wasn't mentioned here and people do look for info in these old threads....See MoreFull circle lazy susan with diagonal door
Comments (12)Another advantage to the V cut out is that it is significantly easier to remove heavy items. The rotated shelf protrudes OUTSIDE the cabinet and lifting heavy items up through that clearance is much easier, especially with items on the bottom shelf. i just measured. The rotated shelf protrudes nearly six inches beyond the inside corner of the cabinet top. A big help when lifting a food processor. A susan built for a single door, (D shaped) will also protrude when rotated, but much less. Suggestion: Take some newspapers, tape them together to make large enough sheets, and make mock-ups of the shelf space you can have. Then compare what you gain or lose with the two kinds of doors. If your cabinet maker will custom build the susans, you can usually make them significantly larger than the ready-made ones which sometimes leave way too much dead space. You don't need more than an inch between the edge of the susan and the cabinet walls....See MoreLazy Susan -inotherwords- A stupid Susan
Comments (16)We are getting a carpenter to build us Super Susans. I am sure you can find one too. We are making sure that he makes the circle as big as possible to avoid wasting space, and to avoid that black hole where things can fall off. By having your turntable on a fixed shelf, nothing can fall down below (could fall off the turntable if you spin too fast, but it's less likely). With the pole type LS, because the shelves often aren't perfectly level, ie because of weight issues they can tip, and things are more likely to fly off. Think about it, if you have a spice turntable (I have a rubbermaid plastic one that I think I paid 50 cents for at a garage sale), it lays flat on the shelf, and nothing flies off, and those are just small bottles. So, have a turntable on a solid shelf, make the circle as big as possible, and build up the sides a few inches, I think you can learn to like Susan....See MoreRelated Professionals
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