1913 Kitchen demo'd today: concern about asbestos/lead :(
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Comments (19)The discussions on this subject are voluminous in these forums. A simple google search for asbestos containing linoleum or tile will lead you to "cutback" adhesive. Here is the story; An interesting discussion, linoleum, and possibly cut-back adhesive. This product, as with all products containing asbestos as the binding agent only atain a "hazardos" status when they become "friable", iE airborne. Since there was a lack of consistency, state to state, for the remediation of these products, encapsulation became the method of choice and so, many have been simply covered over with "safe" products, such as Hardie-backer. The simple test that determines whether or not cut-back adhesive is present is to spill boiling water on an exposed area. If the water puddles, you have cut-back adhesive, if the adhesive melts, you do not. The solution in the removal process is to keep the area moistened which will serve to prevent the binder from becoming friable. There are also several products which work quite well for adhesive removal....See MoreWhat to do with lead paint?
Comments (52)reyesuela- You need to be clear on the facts before you criticize. If you were familiar with EPA's Asbestos-in-Schools rules, you would know that EPA does not have the authority to arbitrarily force schools to remove asbestos. I am familiar with the program, and I can tell you that the only removals that have occurred after asbestos was identified in schools were done because of independent decisions by the school districts involved in light of the hazards that were identified. Here is a quote from a set of EPA FAQ's: Is the school district required to do anything about asbestos-in-schools? Yes. AHERA, or the Asbestos Hazard Emergency Response Act, was passed by Congress in 1986. AHERA requires public school districts and non-profit private schools to inspect their schools for asbestos containing building material and prepare management plans which recommend the best way to reduce the hazard from any asbestos that may be present. Options include repairing damaged asbestos containing material, spraying it with sealants, enclosing it, removing it, or keeping it in good condition so that it does not release fibers. The plans must be developed by accredited management planners and approved by the State. The school authority must notify parent, teacher and employer organizations of the plans, and then the plans must be implemented. The school district must also perform periodic surveillance of asbestos containing material every 6 months in its schools. AHERA also requires accreditation of abatement designers, contractor supervisors and workers, building inspectors, and school management plan writers. How unreasonable does that sound? I know it's tempting to tell stories about mindless government bureaucrats, but please dig a little deeper next time before repeating urban myths. Here is a link that might be useful: Asbestos-in-Schools Program...See MoreAsbestos, Electrical & Lead - Oh My!
Comments (26)Live wire oak, that's funny. Had we proceeded my number was $150,000 pending soil, water,lead, and air testing, on his dime, plus an escrow for full asbestos remediation and complete disclosure on any other known defects or hazards. That's not going to happen so we moved on. I think the seller's a terrible human being. This guy would have allowed a family with children to move into a home that could ruin their health and finances. The abestos in the house is not the hard-pressed tile kind that is only a problem if it's disturbed. This is the soft, flaky airborne kind floating in all the crawl spaces and in the utility area. The photos look like a poster child for the EPA's website. We notified the seller that we were voiding the contract. He revealed to my agent that he knew about all the problems mentioned so he wasn't surprised. Apparently, this very scenario has happened to the seller before. So, it sounds like he's planning to wait for the next buyer and hope they have a less thorough inspector. He believes his property is worth a million dollars and he's wants his money. Virginia is a "buyer beware" state that allows homeowners to either disclose material defects or disclaim knowledge meaning the owner makes no representations or warranties as to the condition of the property or any improvements. I really don't know if some future buyer would have a giant lawsuit or not but why should they ever be placed in such a position? I wish there was something we could do to warn others. That being said, the contract says we are to provide him with a copy of the home inspection which has been sent. Will that help the next buyer? Probably not. However, I do suspect the word will somehow spread in the realtor community that the property comes with big, flashing, caution lights. Good news for us...we made an offer on our "back-up" house. Great lot, same area, fully rennovated, much smaller but now with a much smaller price tag that will enable us to build an addition. Due to a relocation, the sellers are very motivated. After six months on the market, they've seen the light and cut the price by 25%. We jumped. It'll be a great home if it all works out. It's been three years since we sold our last home so we're ready....See MoreWow Granite with Concerns OR safe, neutral Cambria?
Comments (25)So even a granite quarry that is rich in radon produces slabs how much could be stored in a slab after in has been quarried and processed? Stu, I agree it is not a concern, and I value your contributions to this forum, but I think you are missing the process and why it matters. The radon in question started life as U238 (the most common isotope of uranium) in the granite. That uranium decays (through a series of reactions that do not concern us here) into radon (Rn222). As you point out, radon is chemically inert, so it is no longer bound to the rock. It is free to migrate and diffuse out of the rock and into the air. You are correct that this would not be such a big problem -- how much is in your lungs at any one time, after all? However, it decays to an unstable isotope of polonium (Po218), which, of course, is NOT chemically inert. Let's say it reacts and sticks to a dust particle. This dust particle may make it into your lungs and stick. The Po218 goes on to decay into lead (Pb214), then bismuth (Bi214), then back to polonium (Po214), then back to lead (Pb210), then back to bismuth (Bi210), then back to polonium (Po210), then finally to a stable isotope of lead (Pb206), giving off energy at each of these steps. So, the real problem arises because all of these subsequent decays are taking place in the same spot, viz., your lung. (Although, truth be told, the antepenultimate step in that chain takes 22 years, so the last 3 decays are probably not going to take place in your body!) The saving grace, however, is that the levels are low, as assessed in the papers that Karin provided....See MoreCircus Peanut
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