Kitchen Craft Warning! Terrible Finish & Not Honoring Warranty
maggie_mi
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Comments (133)HELLO AGAIN EVERY ONE, after my post on Sunday I discovered a few typos after I printed my tome out. Additionally I wanted to respond to saydes post. FIRST THE TYPOS-THE MAJOR ONES ANYWAYS: A. When I was talking about using a 6-burner module in a 4-burner range I stated you must " jump small blades 4 and 6 together and then ground them to a screw on the range. Not a big deal." IT SHOULD READ SMALL BLADES 5 AND 6. B. LEGAL DISCLAIMER: "BUT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GET FOR FEE" SHOULD READ WHAT YOU GET FOR FREE. C. When discussing the procedure to re-build/mount new flat top igniters, item #9, I stated you should put one or two washers under the screw so the igniter sits flat and thus stands straightThe washers should be placed under the old reused mounting flange so the igniter sits flat. The screw will go through the old flange, new washers and into the burner as it did with the old igniter. D. The new flat top igniters will have a mounting flange that sits 90 degrees from where you want the old flange to be glued. This new flange will just sit on both sides of the burner and will not interfere with anything at all. In fact it will probably make the new/rebuilt igniter more stable when attached to the burner. This will be very oblivious to you when you do a dry run as per #6 E. When I was discussing how to figure out which wires ran to which igniters if you got those wires mixed-up I said " the igniter will click, and you will know it is "wire/circuit x" so just mark that on the burner holder. In the next sentence I said plug the igniter wire from burner 3 to small blade 3, test it and you are all done. WELL IN ORDER TO DO THIS TEST TO FIND OUT WHICH WIRE GOES TO WHICH IGNITER ALL THE IGNITER WIRES WOULD HAVE TO BE PLUGGED INTO THE SMALL BLADES AT ONE TIME and YOU WOULD ATTACH THE BIG BLADES ONE AT A TIME, TEST, LABEL(the burner) REMOVE AND GO TO THE NEXT ONE. AS TO THE SMALL BLADES SINCE THEY ARE ALL PLUGGED IN YOU WOULD JUST REARRANGE EACH ONE SO IT WOULD BE ON THE CORRECT BLADE, IE: wire/circuit #1 to small blade # 1, etc NOW AS TO saydes post. There are two distinct problems. One being the igniters, which is the device mounted on the burner which sparks and the second being the ignition module which is the electronic device which produces the energy for the spark and monitors whether or not the burner is still lit. It is very hard to tell from the guybanks web site which ignition module(s) is new or old as the four of them listed, 2 white,( one obviously Invensys) and 2 blue (one of which I know is a Tytronics), all have multiple Viking ranges associated with them. The part I received (PA020042) was labeled as having been made in 2005. However the 4 igniters I received were all made in May of 2008 so I assume these are the new Viking igniters. So to answer your questions: yes, you can fix your Bluestar once and for all using the new Viking "flat top igniters" and Tytronics ignition module. As far as Vikings igniter problem I would say they have it fixed as long as the model you purchase has the flat top igniters. Viking appears to have switched from Invensys ignition modules to Tytronics, so as long as the Tytronics work better or are of a better design or quality then I would thing that problem is solved, although Im not sure if there is a Tytronics replacement for every Viking model. For those of you who dont want to go through the hassle of switching from Invensys to Tytronics, well now you have a place to buy them, somewhat less expensive and much more response( from what some posts say) Guybanks ships orders out in a day or two by USPS....See Morewarning: expressdecor.com *long rant
Comments (14)Thanks again Suzanne1...I'm so sorry about your Mom. @Hollysprings.... We are only doing a small update. Keeping our existing cabinets, and getting new countertops, sink, faucet and adding a backsplash.... We went to look at countertop material and happened to find a 5* granite that was marked down to a 1* price to get rid of the last 2 slabs they had. We loved it 100% more than anything in our price range and had to act right away or chance losing it. (There was some other couple eyeballing it after they pulled the slabs out for us to view) We held it and had our fabricator come look to make sure it was all we would need for out job) Once he approved it he had it taken to his shop, and we started getting the other pieces together. We also have a small budget. We had 2 sinks in mind, one would not work in our corner cabinet, the other was a budget buster. We looked in every local plumbing store but did not find this brand, and the online deal was what worked for our needs & budget. So very many things are ordered online these days, but that doesn't mean one should not expect a level of customer service and support. Maybe my rant made it sound like the delay was going to be detremental to my whole project, I didn't mean to give that impression. I simply had an expectation that I passed on to the fabricator based on what I thought was due diligence on my part. The company, IMO, dropped the ball and it it's frustrating. I wanted to 1) vent, and I appreciate the ability to do that. 2) Just let anyone else know that plans on ordering from this company what they may expect if they have a multi-product order. The company should have informed me so I could make a decision on what works best for me and my situation. I would have at least felt I had some control and would have been aware of the new reality. It was not until I contacted them did I learn of what was going on. My online order status even said my order was being picked and packed for several days which it was not. Then to get a rude service rep on top of it. It's just not right. It seems more and more you have to babysit the world. Now that a few hours have passed and as far as the big picture goes, It just means my granite install gets delayed. We will all be able to deal with that. I also know what to expect from this storefront and hopefully others will be aware now too....See MoreKitchen Craft, Dura Supreme...reviews please!
Comments (2)Hello, I got a kitchen craft kitchen installed in January. it is the grey nimbus painted finish. Although I love the frameless cabinets, the finish has been terrible. From the first day of use, the doors have started chipping and continue to do so. I would have expected a "Masterbrand" brand and factory made cabinet to have a better finish. After contacting the rep, they are offering to bring in a company and fix the issues. I have now been waiting quite a long time and the paint never arrived to my home (I am being told it was delivered but never did). The Masterbrand- kitchen craft say they have limited warranty on their product, but for now, I do not see them standing behind the quality of their product, nor offering to replace the damaged cabinets. I am very worried about the state the cabinets will be in after a few years of use, since they are really banged up after only a few month (of light use). I am not familiar with the other brand :-) I hope this help....See MoreThermador customer service is TERRIBLE
Comments (56)First, the defrost pan on my 6 year old freezer failed. I couldn't get anyone to give me service on it so I called to ask what the resistance should be on the 2 different heaters. That was when I was told they do not offer diagnostic help via the phone. I explained I wanted the specification not help diagnosing but I was told no help over the phone and then disconnected. I finally tested and realized which one was not working. Got on the Thermador parts site and ordered the parts which they had in stock (I was pleasantly surprised). I ordered the parts and they offered two day shipping so I paid the $17.00 for the two day shipping. After receiving the tracking information, I checked the shipment status on Wednesday. It shipped on Monday and was scheduled to arrive the following Monday but it was now going to arrive early on Friday.... I should have received the parts on Wednesday. I called customer service and explained my disappointment and asked for reimbursement of the $17.00 charge for two day shipping. First I was told they could not reimburse me and I asked why they couldn't since I didn't receive it? Then I was told I had to file a claim with the shipping company. When asked how they would reimburse me for something I paid to Thermador, I was transferred to another department that deals with builders(?). She explained she could not do anything but submitted it to management for review and follow-up. I received a call Friday stating they could not reimburse me for shipping charges with no explanation other than when they shipped it on Monday it was after the cut off time for the two day shipping (Is this my fault?). I paid for this with a credit card so I submitted a dispute with them and within 15 minutes of filing the dispute I received a credit of $17.00. I don't think I will utilize Thermador directly for anything else should the need arise. It leaves me to wonder what would have happened if I didn't receive all of the parts? Would I have been refunded for the parts not actually shipped?...See Morejellytoast
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