Question about going from 15amp circuit break to 20 amp
catherinet
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Should going from 15 to 20 amps help?
Comments (9)Your contractor's response sounds questionable to me. As others have noted, 15-amp circuits are usually run with #14 wire and cannot be upgraded to 20-amp merely by changing the breaker. It is, of course, possible that the circuit was wired with #12 wire and put on a 15-amp breaker but, IMO, that's very unlikely. But, for the purposes of argument, let's say that's the case (i.e., that the wire is #12) or that the contractor would replace the #14 with #12 so that you'll have a proper (and safe) 20-amp circuit. That still leaves a potential problem in terms of capacity. Someone in your other thread on this same problem suggested that you find out what the amperage (or wattage) requirements are for those dishwashers. Some dishwashers draw more than 10 amps. (For example, the faceplate draw for mine is 11.5 amps.) If that's the case, the two dishwashers on a 20-amp circuit would still create an overloaded condition (23 amps). Oh, sure, it might possibly "work" and you might not trip the breaker often, but it still isn't right. [It should also be noted that the manufacturer's installation instructions should be checked out too. A few require that their dishwashers be wired on independent circuits. If that's the case, the electrical code kicks in because code requires that manufacturers' instructions be followed.] Without knowing all of the details involved in replacing the wire, I think Hendricus's idea is spot-on. That is, you could have the contractor replace the #14-2 wire with a #14-3 (or possibly #12-3) cable to feed two circuits--one for each dishwasher. (This is called a "multiwire circuit" and it will require two slots in the breaker panel. Your contractor should understand this concept but, based on performance to date, who knows?) Another far less desirable approach might be to put one of the dishwashers on the same circuit as the garbage disposal but ONLY IF it is a 20-amp circuit and serves nothing else. This opens a few other cans of worms and it isn't the recommended approach, but it might work. (I'm only guessing that the garbage disposal draws about 6 amps or so.) Good luck with this. I hope the contractor makes it right....See MoreAlways use 20 amp receptacle circuits?
Comments (26)I am getting ready to wire up the garage in my existing home. THey only had 14/2 wire on a 20 amp and only 2 plugs, thus when I used my saw with spot lights and the the pncake compressor would go off, so would the power. I am going to run 12/3 from the main panel to the garage and the first 2-gang outlet then use 12/2 wire, one will be on 1 ciruit and the plug on another then I will go from there and onto the workbench with the three other sets of plugs. Plus I will be running a cable out there and cat5. I'm just a DIY woth woodworking, thus I will not be setting up a big shop, I just want the right power to operate the new Tablesaw without having to worry. QUESTIONS: 1) should I use 2 GFCI outlets in the first box or do a GFCI breaker instead? any preferences on brand? 2)should I use 20amp plugs in a different color such as grey so as not to have confusion with the 2 other 15 amp plugs (for future homeowners) 3) where online is a good electrical supply shop?...See MoreCan I run a 15Amp/14awg branch of a 20Amp/12awg circuit?
Comments (6)Don't do it. The presence of the #12 at the panel would lead anyone to believe that the circuit could be properly protected at 20 amps even if you should change the breaker to a 15 amp. Use #12 for any extensions of the circuit. You have no control over that property after your ownership ends-- and it most certainly will do that....See More12/2 wiring for a 15 amp circuit
Comments (19)Very simply, we do not mix wire sizes on the same circuit. If we are running a 20 amp circuit, everything on that circuit is wired with 12/2. When we are running 15 amp circuits we use 14/2. As an example, all receptacles in a kitchen are run on a 20 amp circuit. Lights and under-counter lighting are usualy run on a seperate 15 amp circuit. I recently did a service call at a new home where everything in the entire house was run on 20 amp circuits. Nothing wrong with this but I think it is over-kill. Problem was a GFCI in the laundry that kept trippping. Was loose connections. Found that the two outlets in the laundry that were protected by the GFCI also protected and outside receptacle which is a major no-no. Indoor and outdoor receptacles should not be on the same circuit. Found dishwasher, disposer, GFCI protected counter outlets and overhead lights on the same circuit. So, you look at the panel and notice that the entire house is on 20 amp breakers and run with 12/2 but then you follow circuits which are wired very strangly....See Morecatherinet
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