My bathroom fan/light timer is haunted, turns on by itself!
williamsem
10 years ago
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Comments (7)The only way I know of to have both the fan and light to come on together would be to wire them together to one switch or timer. I find it very easy with the stacked switch to hit both buttons when I enter the bathroom; I turn off the light when I'm done in the shower, and the fan turns itself off after an hour (or whatever time you set it to). If you wired them together to a single switch, then you wouldn't run the fan after the shower, which is good for drawing moisture out of the room. If you wired them together to a single timer, then they'd both be on for an hour until the timer shuts them off, wasting power on the light for an hour every day. (Depending who's using the bathroom, you might also have someone turn off the light, not realizing it's also turning off the fan.) I'm sure someone with an electronics background could build a box you could stash where the wires run in the attic with a relay that turns the light on when the fan goes on (or visa versa), but doesn't turn both off when the switch goes off for either one. But I'm not aware of a readily-available commercial switch that does this. -- Eric...See Morefan timer max: 30 minutes or 60 minutes for a B&B bathroom
Comments (13)We're about to start our bathroom and I just bought a quiet Panasonic vent/heater. (Our other bathroom has a fan that's loud and heater that's insanely loud, and we didn't want to do that again. It seems like the choice is between very quiet and very loud.) I'm concerned about the fan, and especially the heater, being left on, and so was wondering about timers. In my old house I had a clunky mechanical timer for a whole-house fan that you turned, but I didn't want that; I didn't know that there are easier-to-use timers now available. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any specific brand/model recommendations? (That Intermatic link is helpful, but I think it's more complicated than we want. A single fixed time would be fine, as long as you could manually shut the fan/heat off if you didn't want all the time to play out.)...See MoreWiring bathroom fan with lights and timer
Comments (11)"You mentioned Panasonic fan with occupancy sensor. Does the fan turn off automatically when persons leaves the bathroom?" Some of the fans have sensors; motion and/or humidity. Motion will turn the fan on when you step into the shower. When you step out they will continue to run for a specified period of time set by the user, to 60 minutes, then they turn off automatically. The humidity sensors, they can go off any time. You can set them to a certain level...but they can be a little wishy-washy. The sensors sound good, but I'm wary of how they perform. Humidistats can activate at any time (3:00 in the morning) and run for how ever long. It's really all about sensor sensitivity and calibration. Motion sensors could be activated by simply walking through the bathroom. I'm not aware of how well (or poorly) Panasonic's automation performs. Automation can be advantageous - as long as it works how you expect it to, at least within reasonable boundaries....See Moreinstalling coundown timer for bathroom exhaust fan
Comments (3)"...there are only 2 black wires, and 1 copper wire (ground). The instructions say i have to hook up the white wire to a set of white wires in the junction box. but there are no white wires in the junction box." I'm a bit confused by this description. Did you mean that there are 2 black wires, 1 copper wire and 1 white wire?. That's what would make sense. Assuming that's the case, here's the deal: There are a couple of ways switches can be wired. One way is that the power feed first enters the switch box with both a hot (black) and neutral (white). The neutral is simply passed on to the fixture (i.e., the incoming white is connected to the outgoing white). The incoming hot connects to the switch and an outgoing hot goes to the fixture. (So, two wires in, two wire out, right?) A second way is that the power feed goes first to the fixture. The white (neutral) connects directly to the fixture and the incoming hot goes to switch along with what we'll call a "return" wire. This is known as a "switch loop" and it has no neutral. One wire is "always hot" (the feed) and the other is the "switched hot" because it only gets power when the switch is on. [There are a couple of other ways to wire a switch, but these two are the most common.] A simple switch does not consume power itself. It only connects the two wires then it is closed ("on") and disconnects the two when it is open ("off"). The problem arises when a more complicated switch needs power for something. For example, a switch with a pilot light or night light consumes power itself and so it needs a neutral. Ditto with some timers. You cannot wire a switch that is itself a power consumer to a simple switch loop, which is apparently what you have. So, there are two possible solutions. First is to do some rewiring to bring a neutral into the box. One way to do this is replace the switch loop cable (two wires) with a three-wire cable, one of which will connect to the neutral at the fixture. Since you're not familiar with wiring, I won't elaborate on how to do this, or other ways this can be accomplished. You'd probably need an electrician. A second possible solution is to find an old-fashion mechanical timer that doesn't use electrical power itself. (It's basically a switch with a "wind up" spring.) This assumes, of course, that your intended purpose is just to let the fan run for a while and then switch off by itself. If your objectives are more sophisticated than that, I'm afraid you're SOL. Good luck....See Morewilliamsem
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