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carpet to tile to carpet question

13 years ago

My mom is re-doing her kitchen and would like to put tile in her dining area. When you walk into her house you walk into a living room with carpet. She has a family room in the back of the house that you have to walk though the dining room to get to. She has always had carpet through the living room through the dining room and out the the family room it is all connected with a galley kitchen off to the right. Would it look strange to have tile in the dining room area? Then she would have carpet- tile - carpet?

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bleigh
13 years ago
Personally, I don't like wall to wall carpet in a dining area at all. I can understand why she would want to make a change. What kind of flooring is in her kitchen? Is is possible to do the same tile flooring in the DR and kitchen? Or, do wood flooring in the LR and DR? I would probably suggest the wood flooring if the rooms flow from one to the other. The family room would be ok left carpeted if the other space has continuity.
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rdsso
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13 years ago
Her flooring in the kitchen is coming up she is undecided about flooring in there but what ever she does there I would like for her to do in the dining room. Not sure I can talk her in to hardwood in living room, kitchen and dining as she just got new carpet. She is the one that suggested taking the carpet up in the dining room. Our concern is the transition between the two the carpet and new flooring. Is it going to look like a big piece of tile or hardwood in the middle of two pieces of carpet?
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" handymac, I'd appreciate it if you'd clarify your statements a bit more. Why do you think that "Using even a custom transition strip when the hard surface is higher than the carpet usually does not work well"? Do you mean that it becomes a trip hazard? Or is there another reason? Transition strips have to be stable---both sides have to have support. In the example above, the strip is supported by the hard surface, but will nor be supported by the carpet/pad sufficiently unless the strip compresses the carpet/pad quite a lot. That usually results in a squashed carpet look most folks do not like. By "So, you might wind up adding 3/4" to the carpeted areas just to get the heated floors in the baths" are you suggesting that we add underlayment before we re-carpet? If so, how do we address the differences at the stairs? Do we gradually raise the height of the top steps? I'd think we'd need to do something or else the top step will be 3/4" higher than all the others and that would be noticeable." Adding 3/4" under the carpet is what I meant. As for the stairs, I have seen a landing area(at the original floor height) done at the top of the stairs, maybe 4' by 3' and a transition strip used between the carpet and the landing area. Maybe solid surface flooring or vinyl tile. That minimizes the height difference at the top step and a 3/4" visual difference does not create a trip hazard.
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bleigh
13 years ago
Does she want to replace the carpet b/c of food spills that may occur in the DR? Since the carpet is new, maybe she should consider a nice area rug to go under the table that would be easy to clean and hide any spills that may stain. I couldn't see recommending anyone replace newly laid carpet. My budget conscience thinking says to live with it. Also, in my mind it would be a bit visually off to have the floor surface change in the middle. If two rooms in that area were the same it would be ok, but the tile/carpet sandwich would be odd.
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natal
13 years ago
I'd put hardwood in the kitchen and dining room.
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annzgw
13 years ago
Depends on how closed off the rooms are. Are all 3 rooms open to each other or are you going thru a doorway to access each room?

One of my previous homes had carpet thru-out except for tile in the kitchen. You could walk thru the DR to the kitchen then a large opening on the left of the breakfast area opened into the LR. Never had a visual problem with it, but it was broken up with doorways.

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