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Marvin Ultimate Double Hung Magnum?
Comments (4)I would suggest that you may be looking at an appropriate product in the "Magnum", if you decide to place one single double hung window within your wide opening. The reason that this series/type of window (Magnum) is made available for commercial openings is due to the fact that commercial openings are predominantly large and therefore require additional structural support to maintain integrity. In other words, this line varies slightly from the next lower line in only the addition of some additional structural support. Therefore, if you are looking for a single window to fulfill your width specification, this would be the series/type that fulfills that one wide window type. There are other quality manufacturers that design oversized windows with the structural integrity required for these large openings. Marvin is a good manufacturer, as are companies like Eagle and you might also look at Kolbe. I am least familiar with the currect Kolbe double hung product, but they revamped their other product lines recently, and did a wonderful job. I think the Eagle line is named "Monumental"....See Moreimpact resistant double hungs
Comments (8)Hi Summer, First, tell your contractor that his suppliers are full of pupu (and not the snack variety). Impact windows are not the same as "other laminated glass windows". I don't generally discuss specific manufacturers, but I do have a few thoughts to share concerning impact windows and their performance...and maybe a couple comments on the systems used by a few different manufacturers... As you know, impact windows are made with laminated glass, upgraded hardware, upgraded frames and other components, and all sealed in place with some of the strongest silicone (or other) adhesives on the market. Virtually all the major window manufacturers have impact products available. Some perform extremely well, others barely get by. Laminated glass is simply two (or more) lites of glass bonded to a plastic interlayer for strength. Laminated glass is no stronger against breakage than is the glass it is made of. Let me say that again - laminated glass breaks as easily as the glass it is made of. I mention that because many folks have the mistaken impression that laminated glass / impact windows wont easily break. They will break, but the glass adheres to the plastic interlayer and keeps the envelope of the home closed. There are four major food groups in the impact glass world (a few other minor ones as well) relating to the interlayers used to manufacture the laminates. First we have PVB or Polyvinyl Butyral. This is the stuff that is in the windshield of your car. It is relatively soft and very flexible, yet it is also tough and doesnÂt tear easily. This is probably the most widely used product in the impact glass market since it does great when impacted. It stops whatever hits it and stretches to absorb the impact (such as a persons head in a car accident). PVB is a good product and is the choice for many manufacturers. The second interlayer type is a hybrid of PVB with a layer of PET film between the PVB layers. This is a very tough product and it performs very nicely, but it can be a problem to manufacture and this product seems to be phasing out of the market  although a number of window companies still offer it. The third type of interlayer is called SGP or Sentry Glass Plus. This is quite a bit different from PVB in that it is very stiff and very tough. It is becoming something of the product of choice in some of the toughest applications (including some bullet and bomb resistance applications). It is also a bit more expensive expensive than PVB and may be overkill for some residential applications  but I think it is ultimately the best product on the market at this date. SGP is also becoming the product of choice for a number of the wood window manufacturers, although vinyl folks donÂt seem to be using it quite as much yet, but SGP seems to be growing in the vinyl market as well. One reason it is a little behind in vinyl windows is because SGPÂs rigidity tends to transfer an impact force to the frame of the window rather than absorbing the impact as does PVB. Some (but not all) vinyl windows simply arenÂt strong enough to take that forceÂwhile some vinyl windows do quite well with SGP. The fourth product line is the resin laminates  where a liquid resin is poured between two lites of glass and allowed to cure. I see liquid resin laminate as the "mom and pop shop" of laminated glass  although some larger manufacturers do use it. For the manufacturer it is cheap, it is easy, and it is an acceptable "mom and pop shop" product. Personally, I am not impressed with performance or longevityÂmy opinion only, but I wouldnÂt use it in my house. Most window manufacturers buy their laminated glass from a laminated glass manufacturer (which does make sense!)Âbut a few laminate their ownÂsuch as PGT (whom you mentioned). Among the major residential laminators (who are not window makers) are Cardinal, Old Castle, AFG, Arch Aluminum, Viracon and a few others. Of the bunch, Cardinal is almost entirely residential where the others mentioned are generally split between residential and commercial  most being primarily commercial. As a window company, PGT laminates most of their own glass and they are very good at it. They also outsource some laminated glass as well. Simonton currently buys their laminated glass from one (or more) of the vendors that I mentioned, but I believe that they are in the process of building their own line. PGT is primarily an aluminum window manufacturer. Their windows have done very well in the past few Florida storm seasons. I believe that they are by far the largest seller of impact windows in the southeast (and probably everywhere else)  but thatÂs a guess. When buying IG (dual pane) windows, some manufacturers place the laminate to the exterior, and some to the interior. This is often based on how the window is glazed. The manufacturer wants to seal the laminated glass to the strongest component of the window / sash. Generally this is the "fixed" stop versus the removable stop. If the window sash is "internally glazed" meaning that the removable stop is interior, then the laminate will be the exterior lite. If the window is "externally glazed" meaning that the removable stop is external, then the laminated glass is likely the inboard lite. This isnÂt 100% though. Some manufacturers prefer one version to another for other reasons  such as keeping the laminated lite inboard to stop broken glass from coming into the home when the "other" lite is broken. If the non-laminate is to the interior and the laminate is impacted, then that other lite will break and the glass shards will be inside the homeÂpotentially violently. This can be avoided by placing the lami inboard....See MoreAndersen 400 vs Marvin Ultimate clad
Comments (36)No, those are not installed prices. Just delivered to new construction site. The framers are installing them, under my supervision. Yes, the Andersen door we selected is terratone, a darker color than the Marvin color, but it is a door, not a window and the colors actually contrast pleasantly. Others might have a different opinion, but we liked the combination. I'm pretty sure the Andersen warranty is the same as the Marvin, and this door is under a porch that extends out up to 16 feet. It will seldom see any blowing rain or any direct sunlight. As for the showroom doors we looked at, the Andersen to us was just a better looking door. But the fit and finish looked much better to us. The Marvin's weatherstipping while probably effective looked sloppy to me, uneven, sticking out here and there. The door operation was not as smooth as the Andersen. And about $250 more in cost. So we went with the Andersen, even though I REALLY wanted to like the Marvin as it would have been easier to get it from the same dealer as my windows....See MoreWhat to do with dining room window? Double hung? Bay? Box bay?
Comments (4)The Pros and Cons of Bay Windows Most of us have heard of – and sincerely admire – bay windows. From the natural light to reading nooks, bay windows provide many dreamed-about home qualities. But, how do the pros and cons of bay windows stack up to bow windows? Pros of bay windows Less expensive and easier to install than bow windows, as bay windows have fewer panes Protrude further, adding more interior floor space The space they create can be transformed into an additional seating area Cons of bay windows Not as wide as bow windows, creating more limited views Provide less natural light than bow windows The Pros and Cons of Bow Windows Bow windows provide several home benefits such as unmatched wide-angle views, but there are some aspects that hugely differ from bay windows. How do the pros and cons of bow windows compare to bay windows? Pros of bow windows Receive views from two sides of the home Allow more light into the home due to having more panes Provides uninterrupted panoramic views via a narrow exterior profile Cons of bow windows More expensive than bay windows, as bow windows contain at least four panes More complex installation than bay windows...See Morestayn2busy
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