Andersen glass failure due to negative pressure
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Andersen glass failure / repair
Comments (4)oberon, Your welcome. I am having the Andersen tech. back to complete the repair on my 6' slider (it was put off due to the cold weather in January), and I will inquire as to what length rivet should be used. The IGU frame is about 1/2" square and made of aluminum as you probably already know. I know it has a dessicent inside so the walls of the frame should be around 1/16" or so. I would think a rivet with a grip range of 1/16 - 1/4" would be good. I did some research and found that the difference in the material of the mandrels is solely for strength; the steel having more sheer / tensile strength than the aluminum. After contacting a few rivet companies I was advised to use the all aluminum rivet. So now I'm off to drill the holes in the wood frames and will complete the rivet installation as soon as the tech comes to repair the slider....See MoreAndersen, Pella and Marvin Oh My!!
Comments (23)I don't know the size of windows you are buying so I can't comment on the prices but I can tell you that the Andersen 400 TiltWash is not in the same league as the Marvin Ultimate and should have been priced about 20 to 25% less. The TiltWash doesn't even have a cladding on the sash, just a high-tech PPG paint coating. Andersen's 400 WoodWright has the same frame but a composite plastic/wood fiber Fibrex sash cladding (like Trex) so it is closer to the Ultimate and should be about 15% cheaper. I would not use Pella ProLine windows even if they were the equal of the Ultimate; Pella as a company is unreliable IMHO. You certainly made the right decsion given those choices. If the Ultimate has a flaw it is the sill nosing which is ridiculously thin and does not project enough to act as a drip (not that any modern nail-fin windows do). I strongly recommend adding a PVC sill nosing from Advanced Trimwright (ATW) or a similar product. Extending the sill under the jamb trim makes a handsome job and avoids sill the waterproofing problems I have seen so often....See MoreBuyer Beware: Black Andersen 400 Series Casement Windows
Comments (85)Dealing with a similar sutuation. New build with same windows. I was a little surprised when i noticed the exterior mitre joints, as mine are identical. One thing i know for sure is that “damage” you think is from the factory is 100% from the installer. Mine were installed with way more damage. Aside from the major damage, I did have those scuff/scratch type marks all over several of mine as well, the good news is - they literally wipe off with a decent amount of elbow grease. I was happy when I realized it wasnt permanent....See MoreReplacing glass in Kolbe window?
Comments (22)I found the GBA article and while it was really interesting (I read it a couple times), it was not exactly a primer on why IGU's can potentially implode. Also the units referenced in the specific situation presented in the GBA article were quad pane heat mirror IGU's with krypton fill, so not exactly applicable to dual pane argon filled units, but very interesting read nonetheless. https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/curious-case-imploding-windows While I definitely would have commented about the article and the comments had I seen it when it was new (I had to force myself to leave it alone!), I would suggest that the THS thread I posted below, although crazy long, is a much better primer on the potential for IGU's collapsing and/or imploding than was the GBA article. https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2629481/andersen-glass-failure-due-to-negative-pressure#n=129 Although this sounds deceptively obvious, glass breaks for a reason and sometimes the reason is clear (baseball or rock, and yes pun intended, sorry) and sometimes less so (pressure changes, thermal), but in all cases the glass is going to tell you why it broke if you listen to what it's saying....See MoreWindows on Washington Ltd
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