Yeah, a look at the surroundings would help. Looks like a drain, but usually they're located down low so they can do their job. Have you taken the top off and looked? It could have a valve down there, but I doubt it. Does that area look like it needs a drain? Is there an outflow drain anywhere? Mike

Why the secrecy? Because it's not imporant what it is. Why it is happens to be what I am addressing. I think people have too many personal experiences and answer with answers that fit their situation, not thinking beyond. "They" and "activity" are blank on purpose. The table has never bothered me. I don't mince words. Ever. I probably should. I bet you and I would get along (or butt heads), but you're off this time. I want them to meet in there. More goes on than eating when they eat come together in there. Maybe that's the issue, the real issue, it was too contentious for relaxing for everyone involved. Really, it goes against the unstated ideal of the room--bonding. It's certainly ok to be different in there (every nation you can imagine!) and what usually goes on is a greater appreciation for the nationality that might never have gotten across any other way. This ONE person is violating the sanctity of the haven that's been created. How I address that is a whole nuther issue. This issue crossed the line. I do want to take care of it expediently. Maybe the rest will take care of itself someday. The flavor of the room changes loads, there's no denying that! My favorite event was an American Southerner (ME!) translating what a Japanese man said in English to a Chinese man in English. HA! How I spoke it any differently is news to me, but he got it! Hey at least you fit your name cynic!

Taken from spray foam under roof commentary........ "Ready for this… here it comes… roofs leak. They always have. They always will. Sometime you see the leak, sometimes you don’t. This is true regardless of what system you use. There is no greater risk of roof damage with SPF, regardless of type, under a roof deck when exposed to a leak than the risk compared to structural insulated panels (SIPs) or typical commercial compact flat roofs. We can build with multiple layers of insulation and membranes and decking, and somehow we manage to deal with roof leaks. It is not the end of the world. SPF is not a greater risk under a roof deck than the risk associated with commercial compact flat roofs with multiple layers of insulation sandwiched between roof membranes and metal and wood structural decks. SPF is not a greater risk under a roof deck than the risk associated with SIPs." Realize when I say roof leaks I am talking about roof leaks from a roof deck with no insulation of any kind (no panels - nothing) They are comparing their foam to SIPs. I am talking about just OSB decking no panels no insulation of any kind on roof deck. If there is a roof leak you will see it in a Katy, Tx rain storm. I am talking about a sloped roof. Realize Houston total rainfall is comparable to places like Oregon. Except the rain fall in Houston area tends to occur in big and some times long rain storms rather than smaller rain storms all year long. Taken from spray foam under roof commentary........ "Ready for something else? Here it comes… sloping roofs are less of a risk than flat roofs. Wow. This gravity thing is a big deal. With a sloping roof you have less hydrostatic pressure and if you do have a leak it is more likely to be seen inside regardless of roof type. Note the “regardless of roof type” comment. Built up compact, SIP, SPS… it does not matter." Sure but once that roof is saturated for hours and hours long of rain fall, if there is a leak the water will find it. If the roof deck is insulated you will have to rip all that insulation out to find where the leak is. Gravity works against you here. That is the point is it not? The water travels how far down the insulation until at some weak point in the insulated roof deck it starts dripping. Yeah that's going to cost you. I can't make this point any more clear to you. You must realize the people selling this product are doing what they can to keep selling it. It creates more problems than it cures and it's costly. If you're made of money then you probably have other problems dividing your attention right now. All across the nation if you've ever ridden on an air plane or flown in a helicopter... look at the top of commercial flat roofs. What do you see? building after building? I'll tell you what I see.... HVAC package units sitting in the out door weather. In some cases even the duct work sits on the roofs covered in what is commonly referred to as a 'dog house' to protect the ducts from the weather. Everybody and their brother has something to sell you, no? I don't know maybe you are trying to sell it to me? (good luck, I know better) They all claim they have the best thing since sliced bread. I am here to tell you it's not what it's cracked up to be. (I have been in rental homes, I have been in home owner homes for over 22 years now... I have personally found roof leaks on more than one occasion, not only in homes of others... but also my own. I am not a roofer by the way.... For those reasons, I will never agree with mentality of insulating a roof deck. It doesn't hold water. After what I have pointed out, if you choose to continue to think it's a better way you may never have a problem with it. Roofs in various parts of the country can last what? 30 years? By the time people start complaining of roof leaks and big messes with an insulated roof deck you could retire huh? )

Now that I know how old he is - I don't think it was apparent to me. The point he's at in his career doesn't make him seem that much older than where she is in her schooling. Your point about him still trying to be a comedian at his age is interesting. He lives with roommates and is pointed out to him his place is borderline dangerous. She has the nice apartment. Although he has his family home which is very nice and he does relate foremost to his family until the very end. Thanks for commenting.