It does look very like Firestorm, but I have Firestorm, & the foliage on this one is different. Foliage on a plant wouldn't change with age, would it? I'll probably need to wait til next year to be sure. I moved Firestorm last year, I was remembering it flowering earlier, but it is just now getting buds & will probably flower in another week. Would be nice if both were flowering at the same time so I could compare. I guess next year should determine that for sure because even if I can compare this year, both might be off because of being divided & moved.

Sammy, I have grown celery here in OK, but i grew it mainly in my greenhouse. I dont remember exactly when i started it, but i know it was during the winter months. The variety was Tango. I did sell some plants one year and i know some of the people said it did ok. But they were mainly just using a little at a time instead of cutting the whole plant off. I'm sure you can grow it if you have a sunny but cool location. It likes fertile, moist soil, but not water logged.probably where it would receive morning sun but protected from the hot afternoon sun would be best. I copied the below article. Growing celery is generally considered to be the ultimate vegetable gardening challenge. It has a very long growing season but a very low tolerance for both heat and cold. There is not much flavor difference between the home grown variety and the store bought variety so most gardeners grow a celery plant purely for the challenge it poses. Read on to find out more about the best way to grow celery in your garden. Starting Celery Seeds Because a celery plant has such a long maturity time, unless you live in a location with long growing seasons, you need to start celery seeds indoors at least 8 � 10 weeks before the last frost date for your area. Celery seeds are tiny and tricky to plant. Try mixing them with sand and then sprinkling the sand/seed mix over the pots you will be starting the celery plants in. Cover the seeds with just a little bit of soil. Celery seeds like to be planted shallowly. Once the celery seeds have sprouted and are large enough, either thin the seedlings or prick them out to their own pots. Planting Celery in the Garden Once the temperatures outside are consistently above 50F, you can plant your celery into your garden. Remember that celery is very temperature sensitive, so don�t plant it out too early or you will kill or weaken the celery plant. Unless you live in a location that is ideal to grow celery plants, you are best planting your celery where it will get 6 hours of sun, but preferably somewhere that the celery plant will be shaded for the hottest part of the day. Also, make sure that where you will be growing celery has rich soil. Celery needs lots of nutrients to grow well. Grow Celery in your Garden A growing celery plant needs a lot of water. Make sure to keep the soil evenly moist and do not forget to water them. Celery can not tolerate drought of any kind. If the ground is not kept consistently moist, it will negatively affect the taste of the celery. You will also need to fertilize regularly to keep up with the nutrient needs of the celery plant. Blanching Celery Many gardeners prefer to blanche their celery to make them more tender, but be aware that when blanching celery, you are reducing the amount of vitamins in the celery plant. Blanching celery turns the green part of the plant white. Blanching celery is done one of two ways. The first way is to just slowly build a mound around a growing celery plant. Every few days add a little more dirt and at harvest the celery plant will be blanched. The other method is to cover the lower half of the celery plant with thick brown paper or cardboard a few weeks before you plan to harvest the celery. Conclusion Now that you know how to grow celery, you can give it a try in your own garden. We can�t guarantee that you will be able to grow celery successfully, but at least you can say you tried growing celery. The seeds are tiny,tiny tiny.

Ideally fall bulbs should be planted in September or October, but it is not uncommon for people living in our zones to plant bulbs in November as long as the ground isn't frozen or if it is, as long as it's not frozen the six inches or so down. Most of my tulips are from clearance bulbs that I bought in October or November and just plunked them into the soil. I think after a few days in the cool but not frozen soil (even if the air temps aren't that great), the bulbs sort of adjust. The ground does eventually freeze, but hopefully by that time the bulbs are adjusted. I guess it depends on what type of bulbs and how valuable they are to you, since not all the bulbs may survive winter but there are alot of people who buy the bulbs on clearance and just plunk them in. For winter you may want to ensure you shovel snow on top, or even mulch with leaves first. In spring, however, you will find that these bulbs will come up later than the bulbs already growing in your yard, at least for the first year. I have also done indoor forcing of bulbs and it worked fairly well. All I did was find a shallow sort of pot (actually, one of those "candy tubs" that candy comes in, plant the bulbs in soil, moisten a bit and put into the fridge for a while. A cold room or cool basement would probably be ideal, since it would save fridge space. Glen

Trini, I'm really hoping not to have to go that route...its the 3 pairs of gloves(and bleeding cuts on my hands) that scares me,lol... Hi Marin, visually it does really look like a Cogshall but hopefully taste will be the definitive test. Will let you guys know. "the rats or squirrels or raccoons don't know what to make of it until they take that fatal nibble that leads to that rush of bliss....."color> MD,You are SO right! Well, the good news is...the ripening one I left is still there...Yay!! I will decide tonight before it gets dark whether to pick that one or not? I did squeeze it a little and its still pretty hard. I'm sure it will ripen on the counter in a few days should I decide to pick it. Stay tuned...