Do you advocate a mandatory driver's license test after a certain age? Yes, absolutely. Written test? Yes, for basic knowledge and cognitive reasoning. Road test? Absolutely. Vision test? Absolutely. If you do, at what age should these tests begin? 70 years. My mother set a very good example for me when she turned in her license at 74. She told me that her reflexes were diminished, as was her eyesight. She was unsure if she could react properly and in a timely manner in certain situations. I thought it was a very brave and selfless decision. We live in the "country" and giving up her license was a hardship for her, but she had such valid reasons that I admired her strength. She looked for alternate means of transportations and adjusted her lifestyle to accommodate it. Last year I was getting gas and there was an elderly couple there, as well. They were in a large sedan (thank goodness), and as I was filling up the gentleman emerged from the station after paying for his gas. It took him the entire time I was filling up my tank to walk to his car, using a cane. He obviously was having difficulty walking and when he reached his car had trouble getting into the driver's seat. He started the car and moved very slowly towards the exit. By that time I had finished filling up and paying and was behind him at the exit. I watched as he proceeded to pull out into the road right in front of an oncoming car, almost causing an accident. He hadn't looked either way, and I know this because I was watching him to see what he'd do. I took his license plate number and called the local police on my cell phone. I let them know our location and that the gentleman was a hazard on the road. I asked that they at least attempt to observe him. I don't know if anything came of it but I would like to think so. I certainly sympathize with many seniors with regard to their independence, but I also think it's a selfish decision on their part not to be willing to give up their license if they aren't capable of driving safely. They're putting many people at risk. I'm 56 and I will gladly do all the above at 70 years of age. Gladly, willingly, and responsibly.

rosemaryt, you have a tough situation and my heart goes out to you. Best wishes in a successful resolution to the problem. This is a very frustrating thread to read. People screaming for you to go commit a felony makes me just shake my head in disbelief. Laws vary from state to state so when you get "armchair lawyers", including myself, giving you advice, take it for ideas only since your situation will vary. A few things do come to mind though. First, the police are sympathetic and in fact, that's good for the public as a whole but doesn't help for this situation. Now you need a "hot dog" cop, but the problem is to find one. There are other options though, again however it varies in different jurisdictions. One is a "citizen complaint", "criminal complaint" or citizen's arrest. You need guidance to do this properly and if appropriate but seems to me that it could in this case. I'd doubt very highly you'd get him committed for evaluation with the adverse positions of the doctor and social worker. However if he is truly senile, and it's documented, then a guardianship is a definite possibility. But an involuntary guardianship is not easy, and rightly so. But you might be able to propose a temporary guardianship, a conservatorship or something to get a start. This won't be quick most likely, but is an option to consider. In MN, starting a guardianship proceeding would be more likely to get an eval ordered. Again, your state will vary. I hope you're paying no attention to the fools who suggest that you will be financially responsible for his actions. Good grief where do people get these ideas? That's stupid, plain and simple. C'mon folks, she needs help, support and ideas, not ridiculous ramblings. I suppose someone will running offended and I'll get a friendly reminder but so be it. It needed to be said. Likewise that you'll force a cop to do something, that you can sue the cops if something happens down the road and well, it's a highly emotional situation and obviously many people aren't thinking clearly. People watch too much "Boston Legal" or something and want to threaten to sue for anything thinking that people will cringe and fold. It may work with someone who doesn't know better, but threatening people that know better doesn't do anything more than make the person making the threat look like a complete idiot. Don't get caught up in that. It won't work. Also, I agree you should keep the insurance on the vehicle. I'd even go so far as to make sure the vehicles are, in fact insured. You insure the vehicle primarily so if in fact he has no valid license likely won't affect the insurance at least until he gets into an accident or ticket, at which time the company likely would cancel the coverage. Newspapers, TV, radio, media as a whole... well, this isn't a huge story in news terms but someone might be interested. But I think I'd pursue it with low expectations. Disabling the car hasn't worked. So you need a different plan of attack. Take a deep breath and try to relax. I know it's easier said than done though. Obviously you can't be following him around all over, first because you don't have the time and secondly you could be guilty of stalking if he is angry enough to push it, which he may well be. But a private security firm or private investigator is able to, but of course that will cost something. They can gather evidence, video his operation and even be able to make a complaint, though I'm not sure that many would want to get that involved. I could contact my former PI firm and see if they have any suggestions but since the laws vary, I think you'd be better off to seek some guidance locally. Most good places won't charge you to talk to you about the case and give you some ideas. Again, my best to you and yours. If I think of anything else I'll post again. I know what a tough situation it is. And my experience wasn't quite as drastic as yours, though my dad should have quit driving 20 years earlier. But that's a whole different story.

I don't know what you're applying for, nor how important it is to you, but I definitely WOULD NOT fax copies of documents like that to them. Having been the victim of a theft earlier this year, I'm extremely cautious about keeping my personal info very, very safe and private. I don't share any of that stuff with anyone these days. But if this is something you need, you may have no choice. Is there any other way to handle the transaction?

So looked up some info on the real I.D.,, which I had forgotten about completely. It's available in Frankfort and they have limited walk ins. I'm going to call them tomorrow and ask if there are limits to walk ins. When I walked in here they asked me when my license expired and when I told them that's when they told me to call and make an appointment. They may have done it if it was way overdue? Thanks for all the responses.