"Floating" a tile floor?
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Comments (6)I had stayed away from posting since this question was directed towards Bill. rem1970, without a doubt you need to clarify what "floating" means in this case. It could be a floated mud bed, as terricks mentioned. And that would indeed be a fine installation. Or it could be a no kidding floated tile floor. There are two versions that I know of: The first one, you install a plastic grid/mesh on the floor. Then you snap tiles into the grid. The floor then gets "grouted" with a caulk-type of "grout". I've walked on those at a showroom, they sound horribly hollow underfoot. The second one is made up of porcelain tiles mounted on a rubberized backing mat, the backing has lugs or fingers around the perimeter of the tile. The lugs lock one tile to the next and create the "grout" joint. Same thing there, the tiled floor then gets "grouted" with a caulk-type of material. That floor wasn't as hollow sounding as the first, but to me it still didn't have the same solid feel underfoot that a traditionally thinsetted-down tile floor has. There was a little vertical movement in the floor here and there when it was walked upon. The display I saw had a little waffling in it from the tiles not laying perfectly flat on the floor. I was told the floor was fine when first installed, but started lifting in areas over time. Regarding performance and durability? The tile thinsetted down over a floated portland cement-based mud bed? That installation could very well outlast you, me, and the destruction of this planet. Have no fear if you go that route. The last two floors, the no-thinset, no-kidding, "floating tile floors" with flexible "grout"? There is no hard data on how they will perform long-term. But they are advertised as having the potential to be temporary flooring. You're moving? You can no kidding dismantle your tile floor and take it with you. For better or worse....See Morewhite 12x12 ceramic tiles for kitchen floor
Comments (13)I think the first question is: do your tiles look dated? Be honest. Unfortunately tile looks don't seem to stand the test of time. We had the 12x12 tile in our kitchen demo-ed. I would say that it is VERY awful...we were moved out while that was going on. The demo-ing only took a couple of days though. In our case the tiles were extremely bonded to a concrete subfloor so I would guess it was worse than usual. OTOH, floors are too often neglected in kitchen renos. It's sad when people spend crazy money on cabinets and appliances yet leave dated floors in place. It's not good when you can *tell* that they left the old floors in place. My flooring budget (replacing the kitchen tile with hardwood and refinishing the hardwood in dining/living/hall areas) ended up being 25% of our kitchen reno budget! It was a huge hassle as we had to move everything out and we are a family of four. We had to find alternative accommodations for a week because the flooring area included our home entrance. But I would say it was a critical element to the kitchen reno and I have no regrets now that I'm on the other side. I don't imagine that grout refreshing will be simple or cheap either. $3000 sounds like a great price to me if it includes demoing the old grout. I would add to that budget the cost of moving items and staying out of the house during the demo part. I do love a white kitchen. Personally I would not choose a white floor to go with that - I agree with comments that a mid-tone would "ground" things better. I think earth coloured ceramic would look great if they were VERY good quality - some are quite vulnerable to chipping. I also love this look: If you're considering resale, do consider alternatives to tile if you do not live in a warm climate....See MoreWho pays for floor redos?
Comments (8)The thing is, it’s not structurally unsound. It’s installed with an industry standard method. A standard threshold will ease the transition. Like it does in houses all across the nation with mud set tile. You are just experiencing buyers remorse. You don’t like it. If you had concerns about the transition, that should have been discussed, designed and diagrammed on the front end. If you didn’t pay for design work on the front end, you get to pay for it to in change orders after the fact. This is a case where if you want something different, you are going to need pay for it. Despite what the lululemon crowd shrieks about. Buyers remorse is paid for by the buyer. Lack of professional design integration into the build is paid for by the now de facto designer, which is the homeowner. The burden is on you to make clear what result you want to see. In advance of the contract even being signed. Much less the beginning of work. Certainly not after a job is completed....See MoreInstalling Floating floor over existing floating floor
Comments (3)Please don't. The warranty will specifically state that the subfloor must be clean flat and smooth. The warranty/installation instructions will clearly state that if you are going over top of an 'old floor' it must be (clean, flat and smooth) well ADHERED to the subfloor. A floating floor is just that...floating. It is not adhered to anything. It should take 30 minutes to remove the old vinyl floor. You will also want to pop off the trim on the walls (probably quarter round or shoe mold) before you install the new floor. Once the old floor is gone and the new floor is installed, you will then reinstall the trim. And don't forget that the new vinyl will TELEGRAPH anything sitting underneath (like bevels from the old floor underneath) as well it will raise the floor height which means you will have to have a NEW transition strip created for the doorway. If you simply rip out the old floor, you will likely be able to reuse the old transition strip currently sitting in the doorway....See Morejellytoast
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