Help w countertop overhang support options
billy2004
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Support for counter with 23' overhang
Comments (7)Eric, this is a problem that should have been solved in the design phase, not after the fact. Certainly not after your granite has been installed! In fact, it's extremely negligible of the installer to not inform you that the supports had to be in place before the install. That's a BIG safety hazard right now! (NONE of my installers would have installed your granite untill you had your approved support in place!) So, what can you do after the fact. Not a lot. Granite supports have to be designed into the cabinet infrastructure to handle the weight. If you're installing the CounterBalance type or corbels, they go best into a pony wall or a full 3/4" plywood cabinet back. Your's appears to be the standard thin "skin" that won't handle support for anything. There's always building stretcher bars to table legs to create a table style overhang, but with a curve, you're going to find that to be very difficult. I'd recommend using the table legs that you have in mind and a custom iron stretcher that follows the curve of your granite within 3" of the edge. A custom iron worker can make this decorative "wrought iron" type looking. Then mortise that into your table leg for support. I'd also have a center support going back to a couple of iron brackets that resemble corbels and back up to your cabinet backs like corbels would. On the inside of your cabinet, you'll need to install a 3/4" additional vertical back panel (and firmly attach it to all of the cabinet sides with L brackets) to accept the weight transfer. It's going to be dicy, because you're just transferrring that weight to the cabinet floor, rather than all the way down to the kitchen floor. You would have had to install 2x4 blocking under the cabinet floor at the rear to accept the weight transfer safely. But, frankly, the best way to support this is to ask your counter guy to come and remove the granite and let you build a proper support and then reinstall the granite. That would let you install a full 3/4" plywood backing to the exterior of your cabinets and have something solid to attach any corbels or brackets to. As it is, it will always be a bit unsafe because your KD didn't plan for this and oversee it from the beginning....See MoreQ about support under quartz counters (for overhang)
Comments (11)Thanks, Mark and Calumin. I don't want to pretend to tell the fabricators how to do their job, I just like to be informed about options before I'm asked to make decisions. That Federal Brace site is fun-- I could find all sorts of fun things there as well as what I was looking for!...See Morecountertop overhang needs support (retrofit) - help pls!
Comments (16)Thanks to those who provided specific input :) . Lowes Canada doesn't source the Federal Brace 8-in x 2-in Plain Steel Countertop Support Bracket. Any suggestions for Canadian sources of those? Or equivalent? Trebuchet, I assume I would need three of the Federal Brace 8-in x 2-in brackets? Could I install the plywood inside the cabinets (there is room)? Is there a reason why I wouldn't use the "L" shaped granite support brackets that don't have the cross-brace (knee knocking) like the example below? What about this Ekena Millwork 2"x8"x8" Hamilton Bracket? Price is good. Cold-rolled steel and it's supposed to be appropriate for granite. Is there any way to evaluate the many different brands of cold-rolled steel granite brackets? I am still trying to understand is shimming the bracket end(s) will be required to get a snug fit to the granite, and if so how would that be done? Kudzu, that supplier doesn't ship to Canada unfortunately. This post was edited by feisty68 on Mon, Dec 29, 14 at 13:32...See MoreAsked for 15 inch counter overhang with supports, got 12
Comments (5)Kate: If you approved the drawings they sent, you have no case. I disagree with lwo. In my days as a top fabricator, I designed, fabricated, and installed all my cantilever supports. Never a failure and never a callback. Any supports by anyone else would get my approval or the tops weren't going in. I've picked up after too many designers. Even the videos by the bracket manufacturers are wrong. They show their steel-on-the-flat bars being let into knee walls that have the top plate end nailed to the studs. Gravity smashes the wood at the bottom of the outermost nail, the top tilts and breaks the bar seam if there is one. The top plate must be fastened to the studs with framing connectors for the brackets to work properly. I've fixed this one a million times. Most fabricators, GCs, and designers don't know this; the repair man does....See Moremalhgold
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