Gas heat vs. heat pump in NE
John Fitzpatrick
14 years ago
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Comments (1)run the numbers on attached fuel calculator. based on your area/climate, I think gas heat or dual fuel is overkill and that a high eff HP system is best choice. how old is existing system? today's HPs are as different as night and day to the older mdls. IMO Here is a link that might be useful: Fuel Comparison Calculator...See MoreGas pack vs Dual Fuel Heat pump
Comments (1)Because of your location and relatively mild winters, I would recommend a split system. High eff heat pump-minimum 15 SEER with backup nat gas furnace-2 stage var speed 80% efficient. How would you describe the insulation properties of your older home? You could leave the baseboard electric heat in place as a backup or have it removed all together. Ductwork system should have a comprehensive evaluation as to size, insulation properties, adequate return, leak test, etc. Average winter temp for your location is around 40 degrees. IMO...See Moredual fuel heat pump vs standard gas furnace and ac systems
Comments (2)beth answers going down your list.... 1.length of life can vary depending on use, environment, yearly PMs, and quality of original install I personally believe 15 yrs min is a good target for good equipment and believe me there are some real junk HVAC on the market 2.you can not compare today's HPs against those 10 yrs and older. as different as night and day especially in the area of supply temp. Supply temp on a properly charged HP should easily be in low 90s depending on outside temperature. one reason I put in a dual fuel system was because while I liked the idea of operating savings of electric vs nat gas, I was somewhat skeptical of the acceptibility by myself and family as far as comfort. No problem. it is fine. In fact, I wish I had gone with an air handler rather than backup var speed furnace. This past season I used about 60 therms of nat gas for heating as the heat pump did the primary heating. 3.I really think you are confused on question 3. Temperature is temperature regardless of the speed it is delivered. On today's high eff furnaces that are two stg (newest mdls can have three stgs) models with var speed blowers, the heat that is delivered is what I call soft, quiet, gentile heat as opposed to the conventional furnaces that deliver very hot noisy heat. The temperature from the high eff var speed condensing furnaces while higher than today's high eff heat pumps is lower than the hot blast of non condensing furnaces. You may get some debate on this subject but based on my measurements that statement is correct. 4.There is no such thing as a dual fuel heat pump. A heat pump with backup furnace(as opposed to an air handler with heat strip backup) is called a dual fuel or hybrid application. The operating savings depends on the price of electricity and price of nat gas as well as the efficiency of equipment for a high eff heat pump and nat gas furnace. A heat pump provides AC just the same as an AC condenser. I believe I have given you the fuel comparison calculator in your previous thread which offers an accurate indication of possible savings. I really believe you are overthinking your situation. These are the minimum specs I would use for HP selection. 15 SEER, 12 EER, 9 HSPF full BTUs in both heating and cooling mode matching var speed air handler or var speed furnace scroll compressor preferred electronic demand defrost thermostat that controls blower speed like the HW VisionPro IAQ IMO...See Morea/c & gas furnace vs heat pump with gas backup
Comments (6)Based on the information you've provided, sounds like the York quote is the best option, but I don't agree with the 80% modulating furnace. That's a high-end furnace, and going with the 80% version doesn't make sense to me, especially in our region where it can get cold at times (I'm in Maryland). Is PVC venting an issue? The York Affinity is a nice line of equipment. American Standard isn't bad, either, but the equipment that the York rep. is quoting is better in my opinion. 3 tons is a bit much for your cooling load, but it's what you'd have to go with if you went with the Affinity line. The 2.5-ton Latitude unit would be the better fit. With the low stage on the Affinity approximately meeting the cooling load at design conditions (which won't be met on all days), I don't think you'll be getting those long run times that you should with a 2-stage system. Ask the York rep. if he can quote the CZB or YZB 2.5-ton single-stage Affinity unit with a 90+ efficient v/s furnace (modulating or 2-stage). Not sure where the American Standard rep. came up with his sizing. Do you like it cold in your house (68-70)? Did the York rep. do the load calculation?...See Morepoolguynj
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