Showplace and Custom Cupboards - opinions/pictures please...
tinyhouse
14 years ago
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abananie
14 years agoI used Showplace inset door cabinetry in white. I think it has a sort of gray cast to it (not sure if you can see it in the p*hoto). If I were you, I'd choose the cream or off white instead. I didn't because I didn't want the cream to compete with the white other things in the kitchen: the marble, backsplash and trim. Good luck!
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Comments (26)diab123- either one will be better than a typical contractor would put in a new build. Either can be made to look great. If these are from different dealers which one will take better care of you? New River/Embassy House upside -standard- 1/2" sides -veneer interior -doweled frame construction also with struts -1/4" back (and the shelf clips are good :) Downsides- -Chinese plywood -Chinese drawer glides -inset does not have a full subtop -insets have large radius on edges making exposed hinges unavailable. -Finished sides are a sheet of 1/4" ply tacked on -Finish is a bit glossy for my taste, others will prefer it -Specialty finishes are not as nice IMO -No ESP certification To compare pricing add to SWP - for 1/2" ends about $9.30 wall cab, $18 base. Ply shelves Per shelf- walls $13, base $27. New River will still have better backs and veneer interior, SWP will have better drawer glides and finished ends. I only add half inch sides on 27" and over unless client really wants it. I don't bother with ply shelves except walls 36 and over and even then rarely. Did neither in dad's house. New River/Embassy House will typically cost more. To an extent it comes down to what's important to you, and as always who you are dealing with. Can't, in good conscience, get into more than that....See MoreWellborn vs Showplace cabinets
Comments (5)In my opinion, any manufacturer would be better than Showplace cabinets from Showplace Wood Products, Inc. We completely remodeled our kitchen this year and purchased $18,000+ of Showplace cabinets from Showplace Wood Products, Inc. through a local dealer at the beginning of March, 2008. Worst decision I have made this year. We put down a 60% deposit and were told the cabinets would arrive in 5-6 weeks. They arrived more than 10 weeks later at the beginning of June. We did not receive our full order and what we received had numerous problems. Of what we did receive, 90% of the doors and drawer faces had flaws that required replacement. The flaws included: chip outs at the panel joins, door insert panels had the wrong side facing forwards, glue rag marks, inconsistent and poorly sanded drawer panel ends, and staining flaws. Three of the cabinets were the wrong size and had to be reordered. We were told the replacement order would be expedited due to the already lengthy delays we had experienced. Not true. After another 8 weeks we received the replacement cabinets but had to wait another few weeks for the door and drawer faces (due to the significant number of flaws they had to have a special meeting which dragged the process out even longer). When they did arrive about 30% of the replacements had flaws that required they also be replaced. The dealer and Showplace's manufacturer's rep assured me they would be replaced. It is now the middle of October and our kitchen is still not finished. The dealer hasn't returned calls for 4 weeks. The manufacturer's rep on the other hand has returned calls and is looking into the situation. Other than the poor delivery time, slow customer service, and poor quality finishing, I would also add that the cabinets do not have the build quality I expected or was led to believe that I would receive. On the plus side, the design is very nice, the frontal appearance is very good, and drawer construction is very solid. On the negative, the cabinet walls are only 3/8" plywood construction and the backs are at best an 1/8". The cabinets are poorly braced and my cabinet installer had to rebuild the oven cabinet so it would support our built-in oven. The thin wall construction means that the cabinets 'rack' easily making it very difficult for my cabinet installer to true them up during installation. But you will not find the cabinet wall thickness mentioned in any of Showplace's marketing materials. I sifted through their website and .pdf materials but cabinet wall thickness is artfully omitted. In my opinion these cabinets look good but are not built to last. I have since learned that I could have had custom cabinets built with much higher quality for equivalent dollars. And if I had, my kitchen would be complete by now. My dealer told us we could expect our cabinet install to take 3-6 weeks from the time the cabinets arrived. It is now 5 months and it is still not done....See MoreShowplace drawers & usable space: need help on a weekend!
Comments (11)Ann: thanks very much! So, it sounds like you had SP customize their typical/stock 4-drawer to your current configuration: can you please tell me how much usable vertical space you have in your bottom 7" drawer (measured from the inside bottom of the drawer to the top of the drawer opening itself)? TIA. jakuval: busy is good, I'd imagine, in your line of work! :) I just saw your edit: I, too, asked about removing intermediate rails on SP cabs, and was told this could not be done (by both SP and KD). KD told me this is because the Blum hardware attaches to the rail itself...is that correct? SP didn't give an explanation - they said to talk to my KD. Can you confirm? From what I can see (correct me if I'm seeing these wrong), the back end of the hardware attaches to the back wall of the cabinet box itself (I think this is actually a view of the heavy duty Blum, but I think the standard Blum also attaches similarly): And the front portion of the glide hardware actually attaches beneath the drawer itself: So, the front end of the hardware doesn't attach to any part of the cabinet box itself. Any idea why SP would not remove at least one intermediate rail? That would certainly allow us to pick up 1-1/2" of usable height! Also, given the rear box attachment, does this mean I need to have the rear box reinforced for any cabinet box that might house a heavy duty Blum drawer? Also, RIR? (I tried googling this one, but couldn't come up with anything I thought might be relevant to cabinets.) Drawers vs cabinets: I'm using both judiciously, thanks. So far, it does appear that I would be served best by going with mostly drawers. Have spent the past 24 years reaching back into a 24" deep cab space, unstacking, re-nesting, etc., I'm ready for a change -- it'll also force me to purge/donate items I don't need any more. I see the utility of pullout trays, but I just know around here, trays will be yanked out to partially open doors, and I'll end up with scratched up doors. Completely agree about not stacking items in drawers: any anticipated 14-16" bottom drawers (I have a few) will accommodate baking dishes/casseroles, etc. tilted on their sides. Did not realize that I have leeway to use 1/16" increments! Sooo good to know: I thought I was stuck working in 3"s. Seems like I've been doing nothing but fiddling with my spreadsheet and drawer/cab specs lately, and am going a bit bonkers. Trying to keep perspective (a la seeing the forest for the trees), but one does easily get mired! Combined cabinets: didn't have a clue about this! Backing up, is it possible to combine cabinets AND incorporate drawers? For example, I've got two side-by-side 36"s cabs planned, each containing three drawers. I can actually order, say, a single 72" cabinet (with one center stile @ the 36" mark), with six drawers, and this would be less expensive than the two 36" cabinet set up? Is there any downside I should be aware of? (We're going with granite countertops.) I'll also have a 27w 3-drawer cab to the left of my 36w sink cabinet: am I able to combine those two into one space, effectively eliminating the wall between the two spaces? It would greatly open up the undersink area for DH to work: our RO filter/tanks are housed under there, and he would appreciate the extra workspace. Thanks so much, if you have time to reply....See MoreCabinet Brands: Design Craft (Medallion), KraftMaid, or Showplace
Comments (37)The Kitchen Place, Kraftmaid all plywood Sonata Maple in Canvas Suede. A Kraftmaid rep did come to our home to see the issues and in response stated, "in relation to the cabinet boxes with the thin paint finish the best way to remedy that issue will be to install decoratvie panels and use touch up paint for any areas the panels will not cover." Masco mailed us a can of spray paint which stated on the instuctions that is was only to be applied wearing appropriate protective breathing apperatus in well ventilated area. Difficult as the cabinets were already installed. I will try to post photos of chipped door edges tomorrow for you. www.kitchenreviews.com/cabinets/reviews/kraftmaid/ There are reviews for 2019 here and most express the same problems....See Moreabananie
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