Please Help me Choose a Pro Range - Bluestar, NXR, Verona
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Bertazzoni, Blue Star or NXR Pro Style Range?
Comments (13)I took a look at both ranges at the weekend, and it really depends what you want. The BlueStar is a cooking machine. Comparing to a Viking is completely unfair. BS is for a serious cook that doesn't care too much about looks (although, I honestly think the BS is the best looking range out there). To me, Viking is more about marketting and the name, I have never been that impressed with their ranges, especially for the money. Bert. seems great too to be honest, but a different beast to the BS. Cheaper, definitely cheaper, but still a decent performing range, with good BTUs. The handles would take some getting use to for me I have to say. I am going to be going with the BS, but then I cook a lot (and am writing a cookbook). If I didn't cook that much, the BS would be overkill, and I would go for the Bert. Not quite sure what the guy is saying about the BS grates - they are cast iron, not porcelain on the BS. Both are good ranges, but are for seriously different purposes....See MorePlease help me choose a range
Comments (11)I am a builder by occupation. I've seen and tested most of the 48" ranges out there. Five Star is made by Brown Stove Works in Tennessee. I'm not that impressed with them. I do like the Capital Precision all-gas ranges (on the 48" models, the large oven is self cleaning and has a rotisserie as well). But you can also get the same all-gas 48" range without self clean and the rotisserie and save a lot of money. Even the Capital Performance ranges are OK, but do not have self cleaning. The deal with self cleaning is that it heats up the oven cavity to a very high temperature (800 degrees) in order to do it's thing. I've never had a problem getting down on my knees with knee pads and using Easy-Off and some elbow grease. But some folks just need self-cleaning. Also, Capital's manufacturing plant is in Santa Fe Springs, a suburb of Los Angeles, so they're reasonably close. Good luck!...See Morenxr range, 30"; drgb3001, just ordered
Comments (39)To staceyneil; Sorry, I've been off-line for a few days, but I see you're getting good advice from others that have also helped me here in the past. What JW said very well about one mfg product's being sold, I can't say for sure but he certainly seem to know the story well. When I quoted $40, it was for teh exact blue box re-ignitor unit, on e-bay when I last looked in Oct'ish. I just did a search for it using BOTH the RI120e-4 number that's on the Tytronics OEM unit, and also the part number (also on that blue OEM box - i snapped a pic of mine upon delivery to be sure I know what to get later if needed), and that # is PA020041. That PA number appears to be the same OEM unit used on some Viking stoves. I found a $60 buy it now and a $110 bid price on another. AS JW or another said, if you also search for either of those numbers, or # PA020047, on Amazon or even Google, you'll find alternatives much cheaper than your indicated $140 est. I THINK but cannot say at 100% certainty as I haven't tried it, that the PA...47 unit will work, but the spark cycle/speed is a tad slower than the OEM blue unit. Taht said, I can see no reason it won't work, and even the old OEM blue units you can likely still find some at various internet sites at cheaper than $140. It may take some time, but I bet you can find it. Black88, thanks so much for teh info on how to get to the (spark) electroids under teh top, make sense. FWIW, I did find replacment individual burner electroids on-line, VERY reasonable, at only $21 apiece, but the shipping was $15. Maybe you can check there if you order your module AND a spare electroid, perhap a better deal... reach them via e-mail at sales the atsign guaranteedparts dot com As for teh rest of you with oven temps... Our normal cooking is around 350-425, and I noticed right at the start, at lower temps, the control varies, so I got 2 fairly good oven thermoters and placed on a rack in about the center of teh oven. After some pre-heat, and sometimes fairly extended run times, our oven out of the box was about 15-20 degrees on teh LOW side (real temp compared to teh markings on the painted-on dial). SO I took to the adjustment. Now, I cannot recall if I turned the set-screw left or right for my adjustiment, but I do remember researching on You Tube and/or other Googled sites, and just an FYI, the adjustment on gas vs electric is very different. I dount you should be afraid to try, but do realize, you probably want to tweak the adjustment screw NO MORE than a QUARTER of a turn each time. A little goes a long way. THe process, just as a poster above suggested, was EXACTLY as mine did. The flat-head screw way in the center of teh shaft is almost (to my bad old eyes) invisible, but with a long, thin (almost jewler's screwdriver), I gently kept placing and "feeling" until I felt the blade bottom inot the screw head, and then slowly turned. If I recall (this was right before Thanksgiving), I think I tried/readjusted 3 times, 3rd time being the charm. Again, we use mostly 350, or 425, and ours is about as dead-on as I can imagine. It worked thru everyday family cooking since Oct install, thru a great Thanksgiving and Christmas cooking event for a house-full. So far, very happy with the unit, even moreso now that (thanks to user above) I know I can get to change the spark electroid on the burners if need be, easily, even tho it means pulling the unit out a bit. Cheers all... If I find a cheap source for any of teh parts, I'll update, but do try the site above or call them at 514 685 5202...See MorePlease Help Me Choose My 36" Gas Range (Big Chill; Smeg; Berlazonni)
Comments (41)We're late to this discussion, but we have just finished a multi-state tour of kitchen showrooms looking at "professional" ranges, cute and otherwise. A deciding factor for us proved to be the oven temperature-setting. Bluestar/Big Chill and many others have very poor controls for oven temp setting. Some are coarse, upside-down, or both. It seems that the cuter the range, the worse this is. Doesn't anyone bake anymore? How did these controls get into these kinds of ranges? Why do cheap gas stoves have better oven temp setting? The answer might be that in a commercial kitchen, various ovens are set to specific temperatures at the start of the day and they stay there. Actual oven thermometers are used to verify temps. Some cute ovens like Bertazzoni have thermometer indicators on their control panels but good luck trying to get consistent settings by just using the oven temp knob when you need to bake a cake at 350F and then roast some vegetables at 400F. We eventually chose a 36" GE Cafe in bronze and white. This series has a fairly precise oven control setting with actual temperature indication. We will order matching extra oven handles and adapt them to a large but fairly standard white side-by-side fridge, Whirlpool or GE. Here is a link to sources of other kitchen hardware that will match that special GE Cafe bronze: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5578436/hardware-to-match-ge-cafe-series-range-in-brushed-bronze...See Moregoodguy2k2k
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