Gunite vs. Steel Vinyl Liner with High Water Table
newhomenj
10 years ago
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thejimbar
10 years agoNever heard of gunite peeling or getting nicks. I have heard of vinyl liners tearing and ripping.
We have high water table and are in flood prone area. When we have excess rain, I do have neighbors who get liner issues. Hurricane Irene put my neighborhood under 2 feet of water and everyone that had liner pools had them bubble up and tear/rip away from sides. Gunite pools survived without a scratch. Bad memories....
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Comments (6)Not all liner pool steps are white. They do come in colors. Liner over steps get pounded. Often, a special, thicker, liner material for this area is used. Concrete or steel doesn't matter. The earth behind the wall does, assuming there are no raised walls, to provide the vertical wall with support against the pressure of the water in the pool. Concrete, steel and resin walled pools can all be made into a free form shape of your choosing. Only the 40" wall is concrete, resin, or steel. The rest is either a Portland sand mix or Vermiculite and Portland, two to four inches thick. Under that should be a suitable sub-floor capable of supporting without deforming. Concrete walls require wall foam between the wall and liner. In a high water table area, sometimes the wall foam rises up, bunches, and pulls the liner bead out. This can cost you a liner. Wall foam generally gets replaced when it comes time for a new liner. This is an added cost typically several hundred dollars. Liner over steps is another added cost, again in the several hundred dollar range. When building a pool, the steps can be either inside or outside the perimeter. It doesn't matter which material is used. I, as a service tech, don't like the added number of penetrations an in-floor cleaning system requires, especially when it comes time to replace the liner. Add age related liner shrinkage, and it's just additional places for holes to form. Stick with the pressure side sweep. Either system will help you keep your clean pool free of debris. Manually vacuuming a dirty pool must be expected so you will still need these tools. What "angled wall" are you referring to? Where you live plays a lot in cost/benefit ratio for a heat pump vs gas fired heater. Things to consider are temps desired, the use of a solar cover (many find them to be too much of PITA), average air temps, and energy costs. Some pay a lot for electricity, enough so to make the gas fired heaters more economical. Gas fired units, properly sized, are almost always faster, often two to three times faster. Selecting the brand(s) and models of equipment at this stage is a bit premature. There is a tendency toward building more energy efficient and safer systems for homeowners and automation improvements to make caring for the pool easier. By your coming here, you realize that you need additional education before you sign on the dotted line and write the first check. We're here to help. Scott...See MoreFiberglass, Gunnite, or Vinyl Liner?
Comments (9)A wish list is nice but lets look at budgets first. Then lets look at needs and finally, your wants. Don't worry about too much about what the rest of the neighborhood does. They aren't paying for it and pools are not typically built for investment purposes. What are your expectations in terms of costs for the installation, maintaining, and services. Installation is a significant project. Typically, fiberglass shells are the quickest to get in and done. Liners are usually next and followed by gunite. With a fiberglass shell, the manufacturers offer a selection of shapes and sizes. With either a liner or gunite, you get to do that. There are environmental concerns too. Wooded lots, lots made of unsuitable fill, septic systems, easements, and other below ground issues such as high water tables, and soil conditions can play significant parts in budgets. Nice neighborhoods have all three types of in ground pools plus some above grounds too. Making your back yard a vacation spot for the family is what its all about. With liners and gunite, just about any you can do with a gunite can be done with a liner. Spas, waterfalls, deck jets, current generators, lighting, buddy seats, sun shelves, automatic floor cleaners, and even bubblers can be added. Fiberglass can get many of these features too but there are some limits. Wet is wet. Doesn't matter what type of pool you get in. Fun and great family times are sure to follow. Scott...See Morebanana_fanna
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10 years ago4 feet of water shallow end, and 7 feet of water deep end. Not sure what you mean by well points?
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10 years agojerseyjenn
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10 years agoCabana is built on a stamped concrete slab. Photos below.
see www.summerwood.com for ideas. We used one of their designs and modified the inside a bit. Had a contractor build the structure and do the sheetrock and electric. I put in the cabinets, did the painting, and added the cold water line and the sink with a drain into a dry well.
Also added an outdoor shower with a propane fired water heater/shower setup.
thejimbar
10 years agojerseyjenn
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10 years agoIt's 68 inches and it's an aluminum roller shutter. You can sort of see it in the 7th picture in the last series of photos, top left side of photo. It's a hand cranked unit and is installed inside. Works great and stays protected.
To keep this a thread about high water tables, here's a photo of the cabana under water, if you look closely at the photo, the water line was actually about a foot higher at it's worst.....
Here is a link that might be useful: RollerStar shutters
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