I have a 9" pullout, also, although it is an in-cabinet pullout, and you do loose a lot of room. It does make the space left much more accessible, though. The inside usable space dimensions would be very helpful. I have looked everywhere and not been able to find them. If anyone has the measurement, PLEASE post it. I am sure it would help a lot of people considering these pullouts. I would want the upper spice pullout only for the small jars and rectangular tins, of which they make very few any more. So most would be the small round jars. I can keep my larger spices in the upper cabinet next to the pullout. The smaller ones tend to get lost though, and hard to find without emptying out the spice cabinet. I designed away my corner lazy susan that I used in my old kitchen that kept them relatively accessible, in favor of a glass front lighted cabinet. I measured my spices and the tins are 1 1/4 inches wide, the McCormick small glass jars are 1 1/2 inches and the McCormick small plastic jars are 1 3/4 inches wide. Small extracts are about 1 inch wide to 1 1/4 inch wide. So 1 3/4 inches are plenty to make it functional for me, since not all my spices would fit in the upper one anyway. I love the idea of the peg board, but with no solution for my spices I am not sure if that would be most useful if I can only have one. On the other hand, I know I would rather not be bending down or kneeling on the floor to find the most frequently used ones. The peg board might let me get rid of the on the counter utensil holder, which would leave a nicer, cleaner and less clutter look. If I went with a lower spice pullout, it would probably just house the less frequently used items. Then I would keep just my favorites in the upper cabinet. Anyway, I need to decide soon. If anyone has the inside dimensions or can show how they were installed in an upper filler with wide moldings over it, it would be immensely helpful. Ordering them and returning them is not an option since there are steep restocking fees as well as shipping to pay. I would only get about 50% back if I had to return one. Sue

The Rev-A-Shelf trash pullouts are designed for cabinets that are either full-height or just have the one shallow drawer on top. What I think others have done here, is purchased a roll out tray shelf (ROTS) and attached it to one of the sink cabinet's doors (or get 2 & attach one to each door.) Size the ROTS for the cabinet opening. Rev-A-Shelf generally tells you not only the width of their ROTS, etc. but also the size opening you need...width, depth, and height. BTW...the opening needed will also depend on the type of drawer glides....side or bottom. Side glides will take away from the available opening width; bottom glides will will take away from the available opening height. [I hope that makes sense...] With frameless cabinets, the width opening size is the cabinet width minus the thickness of each side wall. Then, divide that by two if you have two doors. So, if you have 1/2" side walls: 33" - 1/2" - 1/2" = 32" 32" / 2 = 16" opening on each side of the sink base If you have 3/4" walls: 33" - 3/4" - 3/4" = 31-1/2" 31-1/2" / 2 = 15-3/4" opening on each side of the sink base With face framed cabinets, the width opening size is the cabinet width minus the thickness of the face frame on each side. Then, divide that by two if you have two doors. If you have a 1-1/2" frame around the cabinet (the most common frame size): 33" - 1-1/2" - 1-1/2" = 30" 30" / 2 = 15" opening on each side of the sink base Sample Rev-A-Shelf Specs: Physical Specifications (min / max) Width: (inches)..........14 Depth: (inches)..........22.500 Height: (inches)..........5.625 Weight: (lbs)..........11.60 Minimum Cabinet Opening Width: (inches)..........14.500 Depth: (inches)..........22.750 Height: (inches)..........5.750 Typical Cabinet:..........B-18 Note: If you have enough height b/w the bottom of your sink and the bottom of the cabinet, you might be able to get one of the trash pullouts that have the trash cans sitting on a base/ROTS, like the "4WC Series" [Waste Containers --> Wood Accessories --> Pull-Out Waste Containers --> 4WC Series]

Hmmmm. The toe kicker extends from 2" to 2 3/4". So if it is mounted on the outside back of the drawer, you need a minimum of 2". I wonder if that is unusual? I've never checked to see how far back my drawers go when they are closed. What is standard? However, it does say that it can be mounted from the inside back of the drawer (presumably this requires drilling a hole for the mechanism to go through). So I might go that route. I had wanted the kind of trash cabinet where the can hangs from the side rails, but unless there is some kind of back on it, the toe kicker wouldn't work with that set up (and then maybe you'd have to "kick" it higher up with your hip?). So I assume I'll have to change to the kind where the trash can sits on the platform. Then it will be more like a drawer. Francy

Sorry to bump this after so much time. Here's a picture of the trash compactor. This is the pull out trash/recycling system that I want. http://www.pullsdirect.com/rev-a-shelf-5349-2150dm-2-5349-series-double-50-quart-pull-out-waste-container-with-soft-close-slides/p1573591. It says that it fits in a 15 inch width cabinet. It took me this long to contact a few custom cabinet makers in my area. 2 of them have told me that to replace the trash compactor with the double pull out trash/recycling that I want, I would need to not only have a cabinet door/face, but also they'd need to create a cabinet box and a frame too. However, by doing this, the width of the side of the cabinet box would mean that they wouldn't be able to put in the pull-out that I want, which needs a width of 14.8 inches (the trash compactor is 15 inches), so I'd need to select a different one, which would have a much smaller bin size. The one I want has 2 50 quart bins, and I would have to go down to 2 27 quart bins, I think, to get it to fit, which is a big difference. I'm also talking to a third custom cabinet guy who said that there might be a way to be able to put in a "floor" to where the trash compactor was, so he could install the double pull out I want (which is bottom mounted, not side mounted) without any sides, and then put some type of frame at the top only, so something that the cabinet door could rest against while closed, but said he'd have to think about how to create it, and get back to me. I'm waiting to hear from him to see if he's thought of something that would work. In addition, the price estimates I've gotten so far were substantially higher than I was expecting. Alison, I'd love to know the details of how you and your dh did this. Did you add a whole cabinet box? If not, what did you mount your pullout to, and what does your door rest against? I would appreciate any ideas. Thanks! Here is a link that might be useful: rev-a-shelf double pull out