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tom_boo
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Comments (39)Steamer, Congratulations on having a house that your GF likes! That makes it a lot easier. However, you have only been dating for a year. Unless you were friends for a few years before that, you don't know for sure whether you will get married. (Maybe she will get tired of seeing your clothes on the floor or you will get tired of the toothpaste she leaves in the sink - or an old flame will show up. Who knows?) I suggest that you pay the property taxes, share the joint expenses like food, and she pay for all the "extras" that you want as a couple - vacations, etc. This will not affect what you are already paying (mortgage, utilities, replacing appliances, etc.) If and when you get married, then you can reconsider who pays what. Meantime, encourage her to pay off her student loans quickly and build a "life happens" fund. The others are right that a spender and saver are a difficult combination, but it does not sound like you will have that issue. In a good relationship between savers, it does not matter so much who pays what because there is always $$ left over for savings. You two (or at least she) has some work to do re savings if you will have a comfortable retirement. That is a long term issue which will benefit from attention in the early stages. My husband (of 18+ years) and I are both savers, so who pays what has never been an issue. We each have our own checking accounts but charge nearly everything and pay that bill on line. About 15 years ago, we realized that we needed to increase retirement savings, so we have been transferring the excess funds to our investment accounts. We just paid off our mortgage, so we feel very comfortable. Best wishes to you and your relationship. In the long term, who pays what this year should not matter too much. Keep it low key and focus on whether your life styles, attitudes, etc. are a good match. Don't marry her in a year because you feel obligated after she paid half of your property taxes!...See MoreI just found a suicide note on Household Finances.
Comments (37)No good deed goes unpunished, I guess. I wasn't aware of this thread or godldust's 911 suggestion when I saw the supposed suicide note this a.m. I was hoping to see if the Sears interview from the resume post had any feedback when I was alarmed to read the post from this morning. Being concerned, I tracked the #s from the resume post and informed the daughter of Brenda who assured me both Paul and Brenda were fine. When I went back to the suicide post I read godldust's 911 plea and hoped to stop a panic. golddust was lovely. as one would expect, although I did not identify meyself as working for GW, just a poster. For my concern, I have received several call backs from the family, the last threatening me with the cops for aiding and abetting if I didn't provide them with more info. Since this is all on line, I told them how to read both of "Paul's" posts, but I resent being harassed for trying to stop what might have been a murder/suicide. Since the threat seemed real, I hope I did the right thing. But, and this is a big problem, since thiere are so many crazies out there in cyberspace, I'll hesitate to try to help again. Sorry I contributed to the confusion by falling for a hoax. You may remember I'm the one who researched the Mr.Willie painting and suggested that may have been a different type of hoax, so I'm not usually gullible. The one problem I still have with unravelling this is if Paul is in his 80s it's unlikely he'd have a resume on line. Nevertheless, I hope everyone remains healthy and that the original resume guy finds work soon....See MorePool Predictions for 2009
Comments (22)Johnfather, quote" So is it cheaper to build a pool now? "quote Absolutely not. I've NEVER paid more for service and supplies in my lifetime of building swimming pools. quote" My same pool that was 22,000 in 1999 is now 40,000. "quote I'm not a bit surprised, in the past 10 years my incurred costs of construction have EASILY doubled. Here are some examples; #3 (3/8")rebar by the truckload price per bar 1999- 75 cents 2003- 99 cents Today- $3.75 Gunite per yard installed; 1999- $70.00 2003- $100.00 Today- $140.00 Redimix concrete by the yard 1999- $39.00 2003- $49.00 Today $95.00 2" SCH40 pvc pipe by the truckload 1999- 26 cents 2003- 38 cents Today- 54 cents 1 1/2 to 2" Flagstone by the truckload per ton 1999- $90.00 2003- $125.00 Today $185.00 Freight on rock per truckload 1999- $750.00 2003- $900.00 Today $1200.00 My laborers are making 50 percent more than 1999 and 25 % more than 2003. My masons and skilled help are making 100% more than 1999 and 50% more than 2003. I can't cut wages because of the high cost of living and building materials won't go down unless the demand drops or the costs of producing them go down and the Mfg's drops them. Almost all of my work is inhouse, and although I use very few subcontractors my understanding is that they're charging double what they were charging at the turn of the new Millennium. Repairguy; quote" The only way to get a job for builders is to do it for less profit "quote I agree with this. quote" they can't do that because they still owe tens of thousands to suppliers from the good times that they can't pay. "quote I disagree with this. Only the ones that were poor money managers are in this position. I can assure you that if you went to the pool buyers you'd find that they paid the pool builder. These guys just didn't earmark the collections for paying the associated bills that came with the project. I'm certain that you have pool building customers who are current and in good standing with Manny. My biggest B1TCH with your employer is just how lax they are with delinquent customers and how easily they can get product with way way past due invoices. Dave should of had the branch mangers cut them completely off. As long as they can acquire products they'll be a thorn in the side of the good businessman in our industry. Just my .02 See ya, Kelly...See MorePay with cash or finance a pool?
Comments (24)I will warn you now, you got me on my soapbox.... Pay in cash. I was raised, if you can't buy it, you can't afford it. Luxuries are to be bought, not finanaced. In this day and age, that is hard to live by and is not always fun. Not that you are in this situation, but as a society, we live in a "I want it now" world and finance ourselves to our eyeballs. We have friends who make good money, have pools, cars, elementary kids with cell phones, kids closets full of Abercrombie/Limited Too, dirt bikes, boats, etc and they own nothing and make payments on everything. Lending institutions and commissioned sales people (sorry to those of you who are not like this) do not have your financial interest at heart. The more you spend, the more you borrow, it's better for their pocket, not yours. When you are encourage to spend more...run/turn the other cheek. Don't give power to others over your wallet! On our pool build this year (shot-crete on Tuesday), we lacked 15k for paying in cash. All we wanted was 15k loan and based on our FICO (over 800 each) and our home equity, the lending institution ignored the request for the amount at a locked in rate but instead, wanted to give us a 90K credit line with a variable rate. Of coarse, you only pay on what you use but come on! Variable rates go up. And steep sometimes. All these home forclosures all over the country-the majority were variable rates, not fixed rates. I'm sorry, but that is encouraging someone to get into dept. That really chapped our hide. The loan guy was not selling us so his manager came over to hard sell us. It felt so cheasy and slimy. Getting in dept is a huge epidemic these days anyway. Lending institutions are not looking out for you. Don't fool yourself that they are. I say, figure out on paper your absolute monthly expenses with no luxuries and make an emergency fund. That should be your untouchable savings. Do not use up the majority of your liquidity for a luxury. Then, find the money to pay for the pool. If you have to save for another year, so be it. Rice and beans, beans and rice (as Dave Ramsy says) Discipline yourselves to pay a monthly payment to yourself, instead of a bank, to rebuild that account. We ended up cancelling the loan application and cashed in part of an investment. While at first we were tentative to do this, we now feel soooooo good about writing the checks for our build and know that we own it NOW, not in 10-15 years with variable interest rates. My pool will go without pretty lawn furniture this year. I found $5 foldable strap lounges at WalMart. It'll have to do. What I want I need to buy at the same time so it all matches, so I am saving for next year. Ok, I'm off my soapbox....See Moreparadigmdawg
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