Rooter companies all want to re-line my sewer pipe
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Comments (5)My mother in law has had issues with her house lateral clogging up holding water and overflowing out the cleanout near the house. I know there are roots in the last 10 feet before the city main. I just went to a rental store called "A Tool Shed" and rented a General Pipe Snake with 100 feet of 5/8" cable. It had a 1" spade, 2" cutter, 3"cutter and 4"cutter that came with it. I used them all one at a time from the smallest to the largest now her lateral is flowing wonderfully. The whole job took me about 45 minutes and the snake had the auto feed system on it and that cut my time in half to do the hob. The snake cost $40.00 to rent for 2 hours. It does not take a genius. It takes patience and determination to do it right. Now if you need a nozzle for a pressure washer to clean from the house to the main make sure you get a forward cleaning nozzle. This will reduce the possibility of the water jet spraying back at you. Good luck and remember General Pipe Tools and Equipment and A Tool Shed Rental......See MoreRealtor damages sewer pipe with sign!
Comments (19)"And, if you're draining your washer into a french drain and not your sewer, then that's a huge code violation and you would be forced to fix that before selling anyway, and you'd certainly be financially responsible for that fix." That is not true in all areas. Gray water "dry wells" are legal where I am, you just need a permit (Maine). My father has one (Mass.)....See MoreGas company offers septic and sewer "insurance"
Comments (18)I don't know what Azzalea's problem is with utility companies and to be perfectly honest, I don't care, and while her DH may have worked for a utility company and claims to have some inside information, I doubt seriously if he worked for the utility company in question, that being Dominion East Ohio Gas Company (DEOGC). On the other hand, On three separate occassions DEOGC performed their services at my mothers house while I was there, so I feel that as a retired plumber myself, I too am qualified to assess the performance, and you may rest assured I too asked all the pertinent questions, like why would the gas company repair water & sewer lines? The reason has nothing to do with the gas company scrambling for money as was eluded by Azzalea. It has to do with Code requirements and union contracts. The gas company primarily installs and maintains the municipal gas lines, however Commercial and Municipal gas lines are not regulated under the plumbing codes, they fall under a separate set of Municipal codes and the rank & file employees that work for the gas company are under the "Pipefitters Union" and they are only permitted to work on the municipal gas lines and the individual service drops from the municipal line to the curb stop shutoff valve. The gas service line from the curb stop to the structure is regulated under the Plumbing code and you must be a certified Plumber to work on that line. The problem is that in the state of Ohio one only has to complete the apprenticeship and pass the state plumbers exam to become a commercial plumbers. Residential plumbers are regulated by the individual jurisdication, and in most jurisdictions the only requirement to become a licensed residential plumber is to pay an annual fee. As if that is not problamatic enough, in many small communities and in rural areas outside the local municipal district they have absolutely no licensing requirements to be a residential plumber. The gas company was then confronted with a problem. When they were called upon to install a new gas service they could only make the tap into the municipal gas line and extend the residential service line to the curb stop. From there they had to hire a plumber to run the line to the structure, but they had no way to insure the plumbers were even qualified to properly run a gas line so they opted to hire their own plumbers, but that instantly caused a union dissagreement between the Pipefitters Union & the Plumbers Union. The final solution was that the gas company hired qualified residential & cmmercial plumbers on a permanent subcontract from a local plumbing company. The plumbers remained as bona fide employees of the respective plumbing companies, but they reported for duty directly to the gas company and worked with gas company vehicles, equipment and materials and under the direct supervision of gas company supervisors. That was working out to the complete satisfaction of both unions and all parties concerned, but it was soon discovered that the gas company did not have enough work installing service drops to justify the expense of having separate crews. They then relized the the plumbers were legally qualified to not only install and maintain the gas lines, they were also qualified to install and maintain water & sewer lines so the gas company started the "line Backer" service to insure their plumbing crews would be afforded a steady 40hr work week, thus insuring they could keep the same ppl doing the job. Now let us compare the gas company service to having the service performed through your homeowners insurance. From my first hand experience, when you call the gas company they will have an estimator on site within the hour. The estimator examines the job and determines the level of service required, then radios that information back to their dispatchers. The dispatchers then apply for all necessary permits, notifiy "Dig Safe" to come out and mark all utility lines before they commence digging, and the appropriate repair crew is dispatched to the location. On two occassions when they came to my mothers house they already had a hard copy of the plumbing permit on the truck when they arrived, on the third occassion the repair crew arrived and began unloading their tools and equipment and within a few minutes a pickup truck arrived with their permit. The crews work out of a large gas company 5 ton crewcab truck with a 20' hard covered utility bed loaded with all the tools, parts and materials to perform the task at hand, and they were pulling a large commercial heavy duty equipment trailer with either a trencher or a backhoe, whichever was required to do the job. In all three instances the job was completed within 8hrs from the time we first called the gas company, and when they did the water line it was on a Sunday. Having spent over 25 years in the plumbing trade I had many opportunities to do similar work through insurance companies. Generally when you call an insurance company they will send an adjuster out within a day or two to examine the problem. The then take their findings back to the office and discuss whether or not it is covered by the policy. If it is a catastrophic failure its covered, but if the problem resulted from old age, it is a maintenance problem and not covered. Of course it will take them a day or so to make that determination. The insurance company will then call you and tell you what their determination was and if they authorize the service they will issue you a P.O. number or control number and tell you to go ahead and contact a plumber. You are then left scrambling through the phone book looking for a plumber that can come out within a short time and make the repairs, course that short time may be another 4 or 5 days. No time now to go through the process of checking references, you need the service immediately. To add insult to injury, how many homeowners have any firsthand knowledge of what the code requirements are? Do you feel yourself qualified to judge the quality of the work performed? If the truth be told, most homeowners would not even know enough to insist on pulling a permit and having the job inspected..Oh yes, and did we mention that even if the job is covered by your insurance, you first have to reach down in your pocket and cover the deductable. So as I said before,,if you happen to live in an area servied by Dominion East Ohio Gas company, in my opinion you would be a fool not to take advantage of it....See MoreWhat’s a good safe cure to stop or slow root entering sewer line?
Comments (13)Thanks for sharing the This Old House method of lining a cast pipe. I had my pipe inspected with a camera yesterday. We found a deteriorated break (bottom left side) vs a snap break just before the pipe makes a downward brand. I feel the downward bend is due to my raised front entry that you step down 5” to a Hallway or Den. I feel my cutters have been hanging up at the start of the bend due to seeing bent metal vs snapped cast. I hope the liner will work and be the most economical. Helpfully this will be the only damage since 15’ of pipe was replaced before this point and it all showed to be still good since 03.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Another down side is I was not cleaning to my 4” line in this 2” line compared to the camera’s measurements. My 50’ cable was coming up 15’ short compared to the camera. The entry, trap, cable cage and a 45 degree across the 10’ kitchen area accounts for maybe 6’+ differences vs 15’???? It appears and sounds to be draining fine but I can see and know there is a problem at this point and grease and Etc 15’ to the 4” line (in the 50’ wide house). This would have been detected in 03 if I had let the Tech pressure clean the line to the 4” line (for an additional 100.00) vs me thinking I was cleaning enough. I will try to share a PrintScreen shot taken with my camera from my screen LOL to show the damage. I have had trouble capturing Pics from the video the Tech gave me. Has anyone in the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Dallas/Fort Worth area had a 2” cast pipe repair using the epoxy sleeve method and by what company?? PS. I hate to think my wife is trying to get me to move from our 1973 purchased home, enlarged/enhanced in 1977. I’m ready if we can match the comfort of this 70’ X 120’ lot Holding my 2 trailers and Stuff....See Morefriedajune
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