Mike, "I don't give a kumquat whether we are warming or cooling..." I am offended by your implication that there is anything negative about kumquats. They are great. I grew up with a tree that bore way more fruit than I could ever eat, and the extras served as excellent ammunition for throwing at my friends--especially the green ones b/c they are much harder. :) It is pretty funny with this current cold weather how much people on both sides of the debate cite it as evidence in their direction. As if one piece of datum out of context can lead to any kind of significant conclusion. Whenever winter rolls around gardenweb seems to slow down, which I find annoying considering I live NorCal where we don't have much of a winter. So I appreciate discussion topics that I find interesting regardless of how "on topic" they are for the various forums. I do find it interesting all the people that chime in about how this isn't a worthwhile discussion. In a free society, isn't any any all discussion worthwhile? You are free to discuss and free not to. Cousin floyd, do you not think that colony collapse disorder exists, or are you just saying you don't think it is a new thing? I didn't realize that was even a controversial topic. ryan

Oh my gaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwww. I've got tears rolling too. I've laughed so hard and out loud too, my stomach hurts. Oh yah, I've run in to a rotten aisle before, and left a couple myself. I really laughed at the part where the 'old lady was waving her arms like she was in a swarm of bees', so hard I couldn't read anymore until I wiped my eyes. Leslie

Ball of Confusion by the Temptations Eddie: People moving out, people moving in. Why, because of the color of their skin. Run, run, run but you sure can't hide. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Vote for me and I'll set you free. Rap on, brother, rap on. Dennis: Well, the only person talking about love thy brother is the...(preacher.) And it seems nobody's interested in learning but the...(teacher.) Segregation, determination, demonstration, integration, Aggravation, humiliation, obligation to our nation. Ball of confusion. Oh yeah, that's what the world is today. Woo, hey, hey. Paul: The sale of pills are at an all time high. Young folks walking round with their heads in the sky. The cities ablaze in the summer time. And oh, the beat goes on. Dennis: Evolution, revolution, gun control, sound of soul. Shooting rockets to the moon, kids growing up too soon. Politicians say more taxes will solve everything. Melvin: And the band played on. So, round and around and around we go. Where the world's headed, nobody knows. [Instrumental] Oh, great GoogaMooga, can't you hear me talking to you. Just a ball of confusion. Oh yeah, that's what the world is today. Woo, hey, hey. Eddie: Fear in the air, tension everywhere. Unemployment rising fast, the Beatles new record's a gas. Dennis: And the only safe place to live is on an Indian reservation. Melvin: And the band played on. Eve of destruction, tax deduction, city inspectors, bill collectors, Mod clothes in demand, population out of hand, suicide, too many bills, Hippies moving to the hills. People all over the world are shouting, 'End the war.' Melvin: And the band played on. [Instrumental] Great GoogaMooga, can't you hear me talking to you. Sayin'... ball of confusion. That's what the world is today, hey, hey. Let me hear ya, let me hear ya, let me hear ya. Sayin'... ball of confusion. That's what the world is today, hey, hey. Let me hear ya, let me hear ya, let me hear ya, let me hear ya, let me hear ya. Sayin'... ball of confusion.

Brian my buddy!! If I was there I would give you a big ole Christmas hug! Did I ever tell you how much you mean to me, my mother and many others? You do and I appreciate all you do here, your friendship and your kindness...You are the perfect example of the reason I keep coming back and what makes coming here enjoyable..I am so glad you never left and continue to share your prize winning trees and fruit. Please give Sugar a hug for me and much love from us here at my household. By the way, what great bunch looking of fruit! Are they worth getting even for me who can not eat acidic fruits? Are they sweet without the acidic content? I can actually eat Kishu maderines without any problems at all. By the way, it's -3 today on my thermometer and it's only going to get colder. Thank GOD for my thermometer alert that lets me know once the temps drop down to a certain temp down there remotely on my cell phone. I got beeped this a.m so I had to turn the second space heater on. It dropped to 50 degrees this morning in there. Hugs buddy Mike