Ms SusieRose ~ Hope that those nasty ole headaches are running outa ~steam~...... Hope you are feeling perky * S * O * O * N ! ! ! Tons of prayers coming your way !!!!! Rest Easy.... Remember Drink plenty of Water.... + + + Just does NOT seem right that the perky little Ms SusieRose is under the weather.... You G e t ~ Well ~ QUICK ~ we Need YOU ! ! ! (((((((((((((((((( Y O U )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) (((((((((((((((((( HUBS ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) **** Cause he still has to live with You while you have the ole nasty headaches ! ! ! tee hee and you rest & Relax and Remember.... God Never Sleeps and He never Slumbers.... So you can rest easy... and wake up refreshed and new !!!! God Bless You ! Your GJer buddy SusieSunshine **** I hear that lots of B12 seems to help also with the Lots of Water !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WRT to the OP - I had 3 children, the first was with a midwife and planned homebirth (the hospital is a few minutes away) after 18 hours I wound up at the hospital with an epidural that only froze 1/2 of my pelvis. I delivered a direct OP (aka sunny side up) baby vaginally which is practically unheard of in a first timer. In one word OUCH! but my experience at the hospital was very pleasant. Child #2, 13 months later was planned to be at the hospital with our midwife and finally was induced without epidural (16 days post dates) The whole thing was over in under three hours 2 minutes of pushing incredibly painful since the pace was too fast for my body to build endorphins and those pitocin induced superhuman contractions. OTOH very fast and recovery was also fast. I left the hospital 3 hours later. Child #3: 15 days early, all natural, with our midwife in hospital again under three hours but no induction. Still was a lot of pain but it was over quickly. Again I was out of the hospital within hours. Somehting like this admitted at 6:30am delivered at 7:30am back home making lunch at 11am...then I had a nap! WRT the other posts. I work in a natural health care field and I have seen all types and I will say for sure that a lot of people elect to have a c-section for non-medical reasons. To each his/her own. My only issue is the misconception that c-sections carry very little risk when that is not the case. There are increased risks with c-sections. When those risks are weighed with impending danger then it may make it a good choice, not so sure it is a great elective. For me it all boils down to doing what is best for my child and for myself. I firmly believe that a birth with as little intervention as possible translates into better health for everyone Here is an excerpt from an article quoting the WHO. Risks to mum Risk of death is 3-6 times higher Risk of infection is higher  20% of women may develop infection and fever Increased use of painkillers and antibiotics by Caesarean mums during their recovery period Longer recovery time  few women are fully recovered by six weeks post-partum Increased risk of miscarriage and ectopic pregnancy next time around Increased risk of placenta praevia (the placenta covering the cervix) and placenta abruptio (the placenta prematurely separating from the uterine wall) in next pregnancy Increased risk of uterine rupture in next birth Increased incidence of post-natal depression following a Caesarean Risks to baby Increased likelihood of premature birth, since elective Caesareans are often booked in a week ahead of the due date. This is because itÂs easier and safer to cut a non-contracting muscle (the uterus) and do an operation when all the theatre staff are on site and prepared. Significant increase in respiratory distress syndrome (RDS) Here is a link that might be useful: Interesting article.

I've always felt I was old enough to understand and benefit from the much denigrated women's movement, yet young enough not to have actually be involved. Just to benefit. I have McCall's sewing patterns from the 40s, 50s, 60s, and my own from the 70s. Even that much was interesting to notice the difference in the sketch models. Kitchens I can't speak to. But I can tell you in 1964 my mom built a house with metal cabinets, that were a dark, slate/turquoise/cadet blue. Open to the dining area (seperate formal dining room,) Linoleum, a DW, built-in butcher block counter, a pantry with roll-outs, whole house pocket doors. My mom was always ahead of the game. I'd love to see the articles!

Hey Pattico - I know about that 10lbs. My DD was 10 pounds, "on the nose", as the nurse said right after delivery. When they were wheeling her to the NICU (yeah, not fully developed even at 10lbs!!), my sister saw her but didn't know it was my baby. She let out this yell - "Wow, look at that horse!" Bad part - I didn't have a C-section!!! Oh well, she was still my precious little girl!