I loved this. Had a hard time with some of it but lively and lilting just the same. Thanks. josh

Sat down for a few & saw this. Wow! Anyone watch the video from 2009? Have to say that something needs to be done. I bet he is also on gov't assistance because he's not left with enough to survive. I wish the story said how many each woman has with him. We don't know if the women are married & where they get help from. My guess would be there are 4 women that he's regularly had in his life & he keeps going back to them. He claims to know their names & birthdays. The one said he's good about giving her milk money even though she doesn't get support. My guess; he's getting some sort of help; probably gets food vouchers. Reminds me of Cody Brown. It's in the video; "they know what they're getting into" or what ever he said about them knowing that if they get knocked up; they can get in line with the rest. Something needs to be done. The government is broke; yet I know more people that are on public assistance then when I applied in the 80's. How I did not qualify is beyond me; yet I see all these people being reckless & somehow getting it. They trade food vouchers for cigs. They have more kids. There should be some kind of law that people go on long term birth control once they enter the system so they do not pop out more kids while on it- IUD or the Essure & in his case; they should offer vasectomy. They will cry it's against their rights to deny them having more children while on public assistance. I've seen this with my own eyes. Actually know of one that has been popping out 1 a year; is now on #4; husband is laid off; last kid has some sort of disability & won't be 1 until the summer. Apparently she's applying for social security to have gov't assistance for him. They don't have health insurance through his work so she gets medicaid. Some how they got a nice sized tax return & spent it recklessly. I don't talk about our situation; cancer killed us financially. When my hub went back to work 4/2010 after being out 7 months; he was on light duty until he was physically able to haul cars again. He worked slow & was just getting back into the swing when his company lost our bread & butter; about 6 months after he went back- 10 months after treatment ended. He was dealing with a bad immune system still; had MRSA; his Lupus was flaring & he kept getting thrush. He was exhausted; my private hell was that his cancer would return in his lungs. He went back to the light duty work & in March 2011 his company lost every other account they had except 1. With 28 years in; he was forced to jump ship to a job making 50% less. People that did not have his years in; somehow cut a deal when their company went under & they slid into my hubs board; keeping their original hire date with the old company which pushed them ahead of my hub. Friends of our have lost trucks; filed bankruptcy. We've tried to get my hub out of the new job since August 2011 & it finally happened in March; then he was out of work 3 weeks. I don't know what the future will hold. His old company was forced into bankruptcy the other day; so a few of his friends that were lucky to keep their job will be laid off tomorrow. It really ticks me off that hard working people like us can't easily get help; yet people like this keep getting hand outs. Something is seriously wrong. 2009 video Father, 29, in child support court says he has 21 kids KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (WVLT) -- On paper, he has 20 possibly 21 children. With a minimum wage job, he can't afford to support them all. What is the state to do? Desmond Hatchett, 29, told WVLT he wasn't out to set a record, though he certainly holds it in Knox County Juvenile Child Support Court. Hatchett's children range in age from newborn 11. There are at least 11 mothers; probably several more. Constitutionally, there is nothing the state can do to limit him from having more. "I had four kids in the same year. Twice." Desmond Hatchett told Volunteer TV. On Friday, his name appeared on the docket 11 times; Representing about 15 of his 21 children. "Can you keep up with it all?" WVLT asked Hatchett. "Yeah," he said. "You know all their names, and ages and birthdays?" "Yeah." Hatchett's name is pretty controversial at the old courthouse. "The children can't be supported all by Desmond, so the state of Tennessee has had to step in," Hatchett's attorney Keith Pope said. It's your tax dollars at work. WVLT spoke with one mom who has two children with Hatchett. She is supposed to get $67.50 a month. But many times, she gets a lot less than what she's owed. They all do. "It'll make it through half the month," the unidentified mom said. She told Volunteer TV, Hatchett is the father of her two sons. And she says her 4-year-old is expensive enough on his own. "He's a heavy milk drinker. And milk is not cheap," she said. "It's frustrating, but usually, when I ask he give it to me," she continued. It's due process-- the state is only allowed to take 50% of Hatchett's paycheck. That's 50% split multiple times. "You look at when they filed, how many children they have-- he has several mothers that he has two children with. And, it's tough" Pope explained. Still, Hatchett says the women knew what they were getting into. They were all aware of his large family. One said, she doesn't like it but she deals with it. "It's about the kids. Not the parents," she said. Hatchett agrees he should do what's best for the kids. "Do you intend to keep having children?" WVLT asked. "No." Hatchett replied. "You're done?" "I'm done. I'll say I'm done." "What made you say that?" "I didn't intend to have this many. It just happened," Hatchett said. Desmond Hatchett spent part of Friday afternoon jailed while a child support referee decided how to split up the $400 he brought to court. If he doesn't pay what he owes, he will go back to jail because he is on an automatic jail order. The mothers of Hatchett's children are supposed to get anywhere from $25 to $309 a month, but when his paycheck is garnished amongst them all, some women only get a $1.98 a month. Here is a link that might be useful: Father, 29, in child support court says he has 21 kids

I watched the video and read the transcript and saw her on Oprah. I saw nothing that came close to child abuse. If those nets over the cribs are more dangerous than 12 month old babies (their age when they began crawling and the nets went into use) crawling over the sides and landing on the floor I would like to know how. I did cringe at her lifting one child by one arm...another by two arms...but both times she had other babies in the other arm. A very good reason that multiple births are so unusual. I absolutely do not think she had all her "marbles" when she set out on this crazy, crazy plan....she sort of admits that now too. In several..as in many..instances in the documentary they speed ed up the film, and I believe the part showing her pour milk into bottles then quickly unzipping the cribs and throwing the "cold" milk into the beds was also speed-ed up. Nadya does have a huge "hyper-activity" fault....everything about her shouts ADHD, so even with fewer children she would most likely be unable to be the relaxed, cuddly, cooing mama we think all babies deserve. But they are 8 that make a whole and 14 that someday will be bigger whole.... and their lives are going to be very different from what we call the norm. And their lives will be THEIR norm. Waiting their turn....sharing EVERYTHING....never being an individual, always being a piece of an ever changing blob of humanity called a group. Who knows what "bright light" will emerge from the competition. I don't defend her...but her children, thankfully, all seem beautiful an bright...and they are here. Our State (and States) have supported many children of many less deserving mothers or mothers who have not cared about the children they have. I don't have the wisdom to know how society can help this woman cope with the mess she had made of her life. And I think she, ultimately, is the one that has to figure out the way to survive. JMHO...FWIW. Nanny (Always a BTW) The child with the cleft lip....needs genital surgery which is done later in life...and she chose to wait and have them done at the same time.

If you are not interested, then don't join in, please. The subject line is an alert, so don't go there. Yeah, it's like a soap opera, and it is shocking too how this could be allowed to happen. Hopefully, something can be learned here. And as a CA taxpayer, burdened with thousands of other people "on the dole" who shouldn't be and a State that is near bankruptcy, it is of concern. If philanthropic organizations can help her, it relieves the State of some of the burden. The lips, the shopping sprees, her reluctance to admit that she made a terrible error--it's just an indication of her mental state, and it isn't good. So let us share what we learn without being criticized for it.