frank does mail order??? plant in later september ... plenty of time to find mail order ... insist on single leader trees ... or make them yourselves ... to save on mail order ... i would suggest.. in 3 years.... there will be no difference between a 2 to 4 footer... in other words.. a waste of money.. including extra shipping ... have a soil test done ..... NEVER FERT unless a soil test indicates something is missing..and never fert a stressed tree.. and a transplant will be stressed for two years ... i dont have a link to brandons planting guide on my laptop ... dave.. reality check ... you will get no privacy from a 2 to 3 foot plant.. so do it in the next proper planting season .... as per above ... we will need to know the soil type.. clay has special instructions ... for TWO YEARS... the ONLY important thing.. is PROPER WATERING ... spacing depends on how fast you want them to fill in ... give us some facts .... including how big the yard is .... my 4 inchers in 2000 are going on 15 to 20 feet tall.. and 8 to 10 feet wide ...ON MY 5 ACRES .... these arent for most suburban settings .... presuming you have other goals for your yard ... ken

Karen, I love to joke and lay the 'blame' on you, but you're right. I spend all of my money on tablescaping things all by myself once ya'll show me where they are!! Seriously, thanks for that link. Eli still loves his Chick-a-Dees. I wish there was a Pfaltzgraff outlet close by. There were a lot of neat items in the catalog, but I can't afford most of it at the regular prices. Did you see the pheasant in the catalog? He is for sale on page 32, but there is a better picture of him on page 34. After seeing Susan's (BNOTP) pair, I may wait to see if by chance I find a pair. I'm not in a hurry since I found the silver ones. That reminds me. I have to post the pictures of my tablescape using them. My internet satellite company slows down/stops my ability to get online if I use it too much in a months time. I have the higest package I could get without getting the business package. But, I would croak if I couldn't come here and be with my "Peeps" and see all of the pretties. So, I'm kind of scared to post too many pictures in one month. Living way out in the country doesn't give me the high speed internet connections that people in the cities have access to. I have to take what I can get. BTW...I was in Michael's and saw your deer IRL. WOW!! No wonder you brought him home! I Love him! If I hadn't spent so many $$$ on dishes, birds, and other tablescape related items lately I may have just let him hop on over into my basket! Oh well, I guess you will have to post lots of pictures of your's so I can enjoy him. :o) Betty

Have to tell you about Donna! Had the pleasure of she and her sister, Mar, to visit me, for two nites, 8 years ago, and then I drove and spent 4 nites with her. She has the most awesome personality. Everyone, in her town loves and knows her. And she is blessed to have such loving family, extended family etc. And even her Bro Jo gave me a big smooch! ahhhhhhhhhhh Hats off to her, and I treasure her friendship! She's mighty special!

We could look back 50-60 years and find simpler times and some frustrations. By decade. Fine print contracts, shipping AND handling charges. Cell phones charged by the minute. The first texting, both parties were charged. NYC was disgusting in the 80's. Phone companies in shambles, garbage workers on strike...gum stuffed in pay phone coin slots. etc. 'Germ-a-phone'. My first gardening order was an advertisement in the back pages of OrganicGardeningMagazine. 20cent seed packets. They would send a (hard too read) fax page, then check boxes. Send a 10 or 20 dollar bill wrapped around your order. Simple envelope. I do miss some of that time. (I think they are still in operation at 25cents per pack). My mother at 90 still wants to get off the phone in 3-5 minutes. We lost internet last week for 4 days. Fine by us. I have a personal hot spot set up by work. No real need for TV/cable. The real suffering are my younger co-workers in small apartments with roommates...or anyone younger with debt. No savings. Paycheck-to-paycheck. Or any of our fellow Americans/world wide peoples suffering... caught without the ability to provide for their families. Sickens me. Post covid hospitalizations with maybe years of rehabilitations costing so much in suffering. And $$costs. Years of medical rehabilitation costs.