Bad things were showing up when I checked out the link to the Chat room. Soooooooooooooo...... I will post on the CONVERSATIONS side of the forum on Saturday night and we can talk through the forum... I'm so sorry. Saturday night at 7 p.m. (PST) at the Converstaions side of the forum. Kirk

I just got on using copy and paste link. of course no one was there. http://client0.sigmachat.com/sc.php?id=157972 It might be fun - I think we'd have to agree on a certain time of day. eveyday around 10 pm EST? or a different time? That way if we knew someone would be there we could pop in whenever. I had to sign in and used my minnie sign on

There is a chat room over on wetcanvas for art chats...mosaic is art so we would be welcome I'm sure. I talk pottery over there. You can create your own temp. room or use one of the 4 rooms provided...usually there is only one busy room and 3 empty ones. Its open to all wc members so all anyone would have to do is join and then go to chat. The only problem is finding a time when the most people can come(wednesday and thursday aren't good for me right now as I teach class at night...and in a few weeks monday and thursdays won't be good cause my class nights are changing)also make sure everyone knows what time zone you are referring to when you decide on a time. p

I never meant for it to sound like anyone was lacking with help or responses. Also he does not hit me/never has. I do not need a shelter. I guess what I need is just a place to vent. And yes maybe encouragement. I feel if I could get him into counseling many things would change. He is not a complete Jerk. I often blame his parents. Everything to them always came down to nickles and pennies. He is now the same. But in a sick way. Our home was paid when he was 34 and I was 31. He is a very hard working man. I just feel as he has gotten older it is now a sickness. One I cannot take. This is why I was hoping to vent maybe some advice and maybe not feel so alone. I never meant to make anyone here feel as if they were not helping. If I did, I am very sorry. Maybe this is the place to vent/maybe not I just really need to talk. Days like yesterday were awful. Today not much better other than I can tell he feels bad(well in his clueless way) I just need a place to yell and maybe in time find some advice that can get him help. Although I am more than willing to go with him. But as of late things have gotten so out of hand I no longer know if I want to try. Other than I know I love this man. But I also know he needs help, Just not sure how much more I am willing to take! Just honestly in a very confused place. But once again never meant to make anyone feel like there advice was going on deaf ears. I have taken everything in and looked at links. So once again TY Oh and by the way sorry I know I ramble. I just have to many things going on at the moment. Also been worried about a few health issues. but have test next week. Another thing I wish he could just understand and be here for me. But for now part of why I am spassy. Just overwhelmed.