Please Help With Asbestos Siding/Insulation
chipster_2007
15 years ago
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happycthulhu
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Comments (16)Jeff: I re-read your post. One thing that jumped out at me was your estimated r numbers. Who gave you these? Dense pack cellulose is around 3.8-4 per inch r, so x3.5" is right around an r-13, plus 2.5 r for the .5" XPS (r5/ inch) giving you around a r-16 CAVITY. Your studs with the XPS will be somewhere around an r 6. Take all of this into account, and your clear wall with cellulose will be around r-12-13 range (without doing the math, your .5 XPS helps you slightly for a thermal break on the framing), less for batts. However factor in infiltration, and you have about an r-0 (truly) no matter which system. For my projects I like to focus on u values, and not r values. The companies that product the stuff (dow, Owens, etc) have done a great job at marketing r value, even though it tells a very small part of the story when it comes to the walls performance. I would say 80% of the people I talk to see an r-21 stamped on the fiberglass batts packaging and think they are going to have a really energy efficient house. This is exactly the marketing game they play, and want you to believe. They are not all evil of course, as they make some super products to use in sealing and high efficient construction, its just a lot are not readily available off the shell nor does anyone do the research on their site to educate themselves. U values focus on the wall assembly. Get the u values down, r will go up. But like I said, for your area, kill the air infiltration, and that will make a huge starting difference. I would also be curious to hear the feedback your architect gives for ZIP sheathing....See MoreHelp Please - Lots of Wet Drywall and Insulation
Comments (17)Hi jgirl,Your doing it the smart way not roofing until after stucco.Out here,in order to insulate and dry wall, it has to be roofed and lathed, but cant be stucco'd until after drywall. I dont subscribe to the theory that hanging drywall will knock stucco off the walls, but that's what the county wants in the order they want it, so we gotta do it their way or the highway. We will face the chance that the stucco crew will slop on our shingles.They seem pretty professional in the way they lathed the house cleaning up after themselves and we asked them to be careful with the roof. They said that's a standard practice on all their projects to keep the shingled areas covered and they come highly refered to us, so i hope it works out. The route you are taking is the best route,imo. Scratch/brown coating is the first two coats of cementious based coats that are applied before the acrylic color coat. The scratch coat is applied rough, then the brown which is smooth and corners formed,(bullnose in our case),and somewhat smooth.Those two coats are allowed to sit for 30 days to allow for cracking, then the color coat.We are going for an old world texture.Best of luck on the rest of your build....See More? Type of Insulation to Use with Asbestos shingling
Comments (3)Hi, In the attic, I would go with cellulose. Loose fill FG under cold conditions develops convection currents within the insulation that can reduce its effective R value by half. See this ORNL test of loose fill cells and FG: http://www.homeenergy.org/archive/hem.dis.anl.gov/eehem/92/920510.html For doing walls, there is a practice with cellulose that most installers call dense packing. This is real and beneficial. They put the insulation in at a somewhat higher density which makes it fill better and eliminates any possibility of settling over time. Cellulose does offer some resistance to air flow (more so that other loose fills, but not as much as foam in place), but not sure what the issue with asbestos siding would be? Before adding more loose fill to the attic, you should seal up any penetrations from below (wires, plumbing, light fixtures, ...) -- this is a major heat loss on most homes. And, if you have ducts running through the attic, seal all the joints with duct mastic, and insulate the ducts if they are not already. These things are a lot harder to do after you add a couple feet of loose fill :) Great book on insulating: "Insulate and Weatherize", Harley. Gary Here is a link that might be useful: Loose fill insulation...See Moreasbestos siding
Comments (20)Hi, I'm always interested in these discussions because six years ago I bought an 1875ish house with asbestos siding. I knew I would remove it cuz to me it just looks sad. Paying someone to do it is prohibitive, and homeowners in my state are allowed to remove it and dispose of it properly a little at a time. So I have done two sides, and have three shingles left on the third side as of right now. It can be done; I'll be 53 next Friday and am a single female. I climb up a 40-foot ladder so I think anyone can do it! Underneath my siding most of the paint was gone with just a chalkiness left on top. There are nail holes but once you put wood putty on and sand it, you can't tell. The big problem for me has been the holes left by what I think was blown-in insulation. It shocked me to see that because my house is cold in the winter. I have yet to repair the sawed off bottom trim on the windows. I'll get to it eventually, but for now I've just painted, and from a distance it's not that noticeable. I think it's a 100% improvement from the asbestos siding. Although, my neighbor had hers painted and repaired and it looks much better. But I guess I'm a snob, and just prefer the original look. My clapboards were in great shape, just a couple were split. I get a lot of compliments on it. As for danger, I disagree with those who are terrified of asbestos siding. I remember someone on the Houseblogs website saying that she had one of her shingles analyzed and it was mostly cement. My doctor says that a one-time exposure is not an issue, only continued exposure. At my age, I'm guessing I'll die of something other than mesothelioma....See Morelucy
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