pasted below is a pic of mine - not a great pic but you can see the edge of sink and start of DW. you need a small edge to hold or cradle the sink in place but i have no "filler" between the end of sink cabinet that holds sink and where the dishwasher starts. Note my cabinets are custom so it could be different as a result.

Ditto babushka....custom cabs, but no filler. Picture below....the farm sink base should have the support built in???

My 36" sink is in a 36" sink base. My Kd did not allow space between the sink base and the dw.

This dw, is a dishdrawers set and has a rubber gasket around it, so when the drawers are open you can't see the side of the dishwasher.

But--this dishwasher replaced a regular dishwasher and when the door was opened on that one, it did look funky on the side between the sink and dw.

So, I have to say he's got a good point.

A 30" fireclay sink can actually be bigger than a 30" cabinet. It can also be smaller. It's the nature of a handmade sink. You need to put in a 33" cabinet for your sink. Then you won't need the bit of filler between the two.

Thanks!

redlover - that makes sense. hadn't thought of when the dw was open

holly - it's not fireclay, it's cast iron, and according to the website meant to go in a 30" sink base

I don't know about 'filler', as in 3". But maybe a cabinet side, like 3/4". It would also support the counter top at that end.

DWs are not finished on their sides.

He is not explaining it enough/correctly. What he probably means is that a dishwasher cannot correctly support the counter top, so there must be space to include that support, Minimum 3/4"

I know what he means, as we have a 30" apron front sink in a 30" frameless base. Next to the dishwasher is the oven cabinet, so the granite over the dishwasher had no support on either side. We ended up installing 21" long, 3/4" thick, cold rolled steel brackets to the wall studs to support the stone, as we didn't have space for filler there. We also screwed a 2"X4" brace into the wall studs to support the stone from the back of the sink. As our cabinets were pulled away from the wall a little to allow for a deeper countertop, we just ran that 2"X4" down the entire length of countertop.

The stone is normally supported on the cabinet sides, but the dishwasher doesn't sit in a cabinet, it is by itself, therefore the stone is unsupported, if on the other side you don't have a cabinet for the stone to sit on, then you have a situation like we did.

I am dealing with this situation as well. I want a complete full overlay look and I do not like the look of the 36" farmhouse sink in a 39" base with the cabinet frame exposed around it. I prefer the look of the 36" sink in a 36" base cabinet so the edge of the sink lines up with the cabinet door edge. It's a cleaner look. Our sink is under mounted so won't the countertop be able to sit on the sink as support since the sink has supports under it that braces onto the cabinet base?

Our cabinet guys is thinking we should have a 9" pull out to match the look of the 9" corner section on the right of our sink. I get that it will keep it symmetrical, but I personally do not think it is necessary. I have seen them before right next to each other and I prefer the look and on top of it, it save buying an extra cabinet since 2 smaller cabinets is much more than one larger cabinet the same total width.

I guess the other argument is that when the dishwasher is open you see a space? Can someone explain this more or have a photo of this so I can decide if this will bother me? If so I guess we could do the 3/4" end panel instead of the 9" pull out, but I'm thinking then you will have a weird spacer you will notice with everything else being full overlay.

Suggestions and comments if I am missing something.

Liz... I don't own the house I posted above anymore. But I remember when we built the house and this 36" sink was installed in the 36" base I clearly thought of this as a mistake on the part of my kd. One I just kind of lived with...

in order to use the 36" fire clay sink in the 36" base the sides of the sink base had to be scooped out. When the dw was open, it clearly looked like a mistake on the area between the sink and the dw. (Sorry no pic). Additionally, if the sink ever needed to be replaced, it would have been impossible to do that from underneath. The granite would have had to have been removed.

that sink really should have been in a bigger sink base as Sophie said.

my cabinets were inset. So a little different scenario.

we have a 36" farmhouse in a 36" cabinet and the contractor had to cut away the top part of the cabinet, so the counter guy complained that the sink shouldn't be supporting the counter. The contractor added a board between the sink and the dishwasher to support the counter. the board is hidden by the rubber gasket type thing on the edge of the dishwasher

" Additionally, if the sink ever needed to be replaced, it would have been impossible to do that from underneath. The granite would have had to have been removed."

I've been changing sinks for many years and have yet to not be able to do so unless I pulled the granite. I remove cabinet fronts and reattach them easily. I'd pull the cabinet sides before the top.

Yes. You don't pull granite tops to change sinks. At least I've never had to in 30 years and 30 sink change-outs.