What to do? Re. asbestos glue on old wood floor
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Comments (2)Asbestos in tiles is quite inert, especially if left undisturbed. Sanding is another story, so yes, you're wise to get it tested, but it sounds like you'd be unlikely to have been exposed just from being in the basement, doing laundry, etc. You could take some sort of swab sample of the dust in the ducting, I suppose, if there's even enough material to test. You'd need to consult with the lab in advance to make sure you'd get what they needed, and in an adequate amount. Most of the labs that test for asbestos commercially are looking at things like your tile and they are trying to tell if it is 1% or more asbestos, because that is regulated differently. You'd probably get a "non detect" result from your HVAC unless you went somewhere very specialized....See MoreHow to remove 1930's linoleum GLUE from 1900's wood floors
Comments (56)I found this on https://www.gsa.gov/portal/content/113602 Removing Linoleum Adhesive From FloorsProcedure code:965001SSource:Ohj - Shirley Maxwell & James C. Massey, 9/30/92Division:FinishesSection:Resilient FlooringLast Modified:08/02/2016 REMOVING LINOLEUM ADHESIVE FROM FLOORS PART 1---GENERAL 1.01 SUMMARY This procedure includes guidance on removing the mastic adhesive left behind when linoleum flooring has been removed. Linoleum flooring was very popular from 1863 to 1974. It was used historically as an original floor treatment in some GSA buildings. Linoleum's chief ingredient was linseed oil, pressed from flax seed, which became a tough, elastic material when exposed to air. The process essentially consisted of mixing linseed oil and gum with ground cork or wood flour, and pressing it onto burlap or canvas. It was then glued down to concrete or wood floors using a mastic cement. See "General Project Guidelines" for general project guidelines to be used along with this procedureThese guidelines cover the following sections: Historic Structures Precautions Submittals Quality Assurance Delivery, Storage and Handling Project/Site Conditions Sequencing and Scheduling General Protection (Surface and Surrounding) These guidelines should be reviewed prior to performing this procedure and should be followed along with recommendations from the Regional Historic Preservation Officer (RHPO). PART 2---PRODUCTS 2.01 MATERIALS Clean, potable water Vinegar Citrus degreasing solvent such as "Limo Sol", or approved equal. Dry ice Chemical solvent such as isopropyl alcohol, paint thinner, xylol, lacquer thinner, or paint stripper. 2.02 EQUIPMENT Heat lamp or hot-air gun Putty knife or scraper PART 3---EXECUTION 3.01 ERECTION, INSTALLATION, APPLICATION NOTE: A waterproof glue is usually applied at the edges and seams of the linoleum; the center of the felt layers is usually attached with a water soluble paste. Soak the mastic area in hot water for 20-60 minutes or until soft.\ If this is not effective, try adding vinegar or high-strength citrus degreasing solvent to the water and then soak for 20-60 minutes until soft. If mastic still will not soften, try applying heat to the surface using a lamp or hot-air gun. -OR- Try freezing the mastic with dry ice to break the bond with the substrate. If no other methods are effective in softening the mastic, test a chemical solvent on the area. NOTE: Be sure to test in an inconspicuous area to determine appropriate chemicals and strengths before proceeding with cleaning. Scrape away the softened mastic using a putty knife or garden edger. END OF SECTION interesting...................See MoreWhat to do with wet Asbestos floor tile and black adhesive
Comments (4)Thanks Gregmills_gw. I just went down to check and all the tiles have curled and popped off effortlessly with a putty knife and the last bag of them has been removed! I strongly suspect the smell was coming from those tiles. I've just given the floor a good wash with Concorbium (? Sp) and we'll see how that deals with the smell. Strange thing is that the cloth came up black when I wiped the floor. Should adhesive with asbestos wash off like that? The floor is still very black but I found it odd that I picked it up so easily. I also wonder if it could be dry black mould that I picked up? The fun never ends......take my advice kiddies, never ever neglect your downspouts. The humidity outside is at 50% so I've left one window open with my little room dehumidifier running at a setting so it won't shut off and I have an industrial air mover for circulation. It may take a few days to completely dry then I can take full stock of the smell. Given that I've just spent the last 3 days playing with asbestos tile and mold, I'm off to Google how to do a lung lavage at home. ( just kidding for those without a sense of humour)...See MoreLVT over asbestos - click in or glue down?
Comments (4)Glue down over asbestos tile is a beast. It can be done...but it takes lots of technical know-how. A click-together vinyl has issues with 'lumpy-bumpy' subfloors. And one thing glue-down asbestos tiles offer = lumpy and bumpy. Oh dear. Well there isn't much to be done about the lumpy-bumpy if you LEAVE the asbestos tiles there (there is....but again the TECHNICAL ASPECT is often too much for DIY level installs). The lumpy and bumpy can be dealt with once the tiles come up...but then you have to look at asbestos tile abatement costs. Damned if you do; damned if you don't. A floating vinyl floor is easy. You will void the warranty if the asbestos tiles are too lumpy-bumpy...but then again if this is a 'short term' flooring solution (you are happy getting 7-10 years out of it) then you are happy with doing it the easy way - warranty be damned. I'm assuming you have lumpy bumpy. Without photos it is hard to say what issues you might run into when laying a floating floor over a substrate like this. You might have lucked out and are working with a FANTASTICALLY FLAT situation. Load photos if you can. Thanks....See More- 13 years ago
13 years agoWe removed old flooring to uncover the original pine floor in our kitchen. The floor was covered in a gluey paper. I do not know if any asbestos was involved. My contractor, who specializes in historic renovation, told us to cover the gunk with rags and keep it wet for 2-3 days. I was worried that the dampness would damage the floor, but he assured me that it would not. After a few days, the gunk softened and it was very easy to wipe up with the rags.
I don't know if this is the same glue you are dealing with. This is the only picture I have of it, after the workers had scraped the paper off:
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