mini-split versus unico
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dai68
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mini splits to supplement existing HVAC in old house?
Comments (2)High velo will heat. I like my 7 mini-splits very much (Three outdoor units). Look up some posts in this forum for more info. They are not cheap, but very efficient (no duct loses) and the inherent zoning can save you money by not conditioning the rooms when you are not in them. They also throttle well as the room approaches your desired temp. Necessary lines and cables should be able to be run in the walls. (Mine were run in interior walls,but I am single-story.) You will probably not get an outdoor unit for each room, but cluster them. That means running lines horizontally as well and that might mean in your basement or around the foundation. That is something to discuss with your installer. Finding an experienced installer might be a problem. If you don't like the high-wall units, consider the mini-split options with short duct runs if you have a place to tuck a small air handler or two. Ceiling cassettes are an option too. You might like the wired controls for those better than the remotes. They will cost more than high-wall. Look at Mitsubishi, Toshiba, Sanyo and Daikin web sites for a view of what is available....See Moremini split unit problem connecting the manifold Gauge hose
Comments (2)Air conditioning for autos is completely different animal from a home air conditioner. Different service connectors and different refrigerants, completely different application. Youtube isn't necessarily a good place to get an edumacation, there's more misinformation there than anything that is going to help you do this yourself. So many things to consider: The person making the video may not have an education, they may have stumbled into the occupation from a maintenance profession, learned improperly from someone who taught them and so on. Or you're mixing skill sets. Like those who work on cars (mobile refrigeration units) versus those that work on refrigeration versus those that work on residential AC units. While these systems do the same thing, there are differences from one application to the next. This is where a 'GOOD' education comes in. This is why people who want to really do this go to trade school and spend $20k - $30K for a real education. (This type of education may cost more now. 2019) In fact, you really have to be careful of the information you get here as well....See MoreCost for mini split installation
Comments (7)Becoming a Mitsubishi Diamond Dealer is a long and winding road, with many background requirements to achieve the various levels of Diamond Dealer. I could never become one for the simple reason a store front is required. Can you say $MONEY$ - this is crap you really don't need. No one has ever called me wanting to see my storefront. This is 1 requirement of Diamond hood for Mitsibushi. If a contractors goal of offering this product isn't diamond hood, then why get involved with it at all? Why do you wake up of a morning to do what you do? People who often complain of prices do not realize there is more to this business than just slapping in a system and the cost of varies pieces, parts and materials to do the job. The company may have a fleet of vehicles, multiple dispatchers, manager(s), accountants and so on. These back ground people get paid money to do what they do. (Let's not think about that) So once a contractor is attibuted to Diamond Dealer the very first level, there are now two additional levels to achieve. Spending money on a system this way is that you are investing in the company doing the work, more or less. Who do you think is going to service this equipment after the job is done? There is training involved behind the scenes, more than just servicing it's also knowing what product best suits the needs of the customer. My market is an already established ducted HVAC market, where ductless systems make up less than 5% so this wouldn't pay me to make the kind of investment required to make it a successful venture. The following link scroll down to page 27 to see the different levels of Mitsubishi Diamond Dealer. There are hidden costs to go up each step. Four steps, however just being a Mitsubishi *DEALER* only is not a level of any recognition. Each step costs more $money$ requires the dealer to perform. The long and winding road of becoming a Mitsubishi Diamond Dealer...See Moremini split dilemma
Comments (16)spacepak makes this type. It's different than mini split --- it's a high velocity system that uses duct work. Just another way of doing things. The ducts are small and slid thru the structure wall cavities. The ducts are proprietary to the system, so you better have a local distributor. AFAIK they can be paired with normal HVAC condenser. But due to the nature of how this system operates a Bosch Inverter HP condenser wouldn't be a bad pairing option. (compressor modulation in 1% steps up and down) From what I have read and heard about them the indoor air handlers are configured to the size you need. Similar in regards to what Bosch Inverters do. BUT... without a local distributor? In an era of trying to find parts, that distributor relationship can't be taken for granted. (same thing for mini splits if you decide to go ductless, just buying something because it's cheap / posed to be better doesn't mean it is.) I doubt spacepak would be considered a cheap option. It's just another option... They haven't made a product yet that doesn't require maintenance, repair and eventual replacement. If you think you will make a distributor happy with buying one system every 20 years. guess again. This works by greasing hands and greasing them often....See Moremwkbear
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