Jeri, thank you so much for making this catalog easy to access, my ownly challenge will be buying only roses I have room for (1) instead of those I fiercely desire (nearly all of them). -again thank you for all you do for old roses, and for those of us who love them. Luxrosa my thanks also to Cass B. who propagated the lost and found Tea rose. I hope to rise early enough to purchase one of the plants.

Pam, It's true that some of yours, mine, and all of our bulbs may not exhibit symptoms especially if they are kept in optimum cercomstances,i.e., cool roots with good drainage, the proper amount of dappled sun for most of the day, or full sun at the right times of the day so as not to burn or stress the bulb and of course the proper amount of nutrients and moisture. But, most all bulbs at some time or another find themselves under stress. I have about 15 virused bulbs from a co-op from 2 years ago that when the leaves first emerged they were clear and green. A month or so on my too hot deck in full sun brought the virus symptoms on the leaves. They have been segregated and and this year when the new leaves emerged once again they are clear and green with no signs of virus. Looking at them currently, no one would believe they are affected. Now, I have planted these bulbs in 2 whiskey barrels at the far end of my yard and I wouldn't be at all surprised if this year with their roots cool and able to stretch all the way out into the moist fertilized soil that they never exhibit any signs of virus.. I also have a virused Estrella that I've had for 4 or more years now that every year sends up a clean first flush of leaves and blooms with 2 stalks with 4 to 6 flowers each time. Later in the summer it puts up a second flush of leaves and these show signs of virus. But once again, it blooms with 2 stalks with the appropriate number of flowers. This only goes to show that certain bulbs can live with this disease and aside from streaks in the leaves goes on it's merry way...my guess is that a NBF larvae will kill this bulb before the virus ever does. If one has a small collection.. 10 to 15 bulbs it may be possible to keep the virus at bay but if one, like most of the rest of us on this forum, keep adding to our collection from here and there and everywhere (which most of us do) we will all end up with virused bulbs and yes, you may never know it until it's way too late. It doesn't bode good for the future and we may have to just learn to live with it. They say that papilio is virus free, someone on this forum had some tested that were planted in the ground among other virused bulbs and the tests came back clean for their papilios..Most of the experts also state that papilio does not contract virus..but could it be a carrier? As I've stated many times on this forum I've lost probably up to 25 healthy bulbs to the Narcissis Bulb Fly over the past 2+ years..and last year I though I had it all figured out that by using a granular systemic containing imidacloprid I'd fix em..I lost as many last year as the year before....maybe more! Donna

Your Cleopatra looks like virus for sure, the others look fine. I have attached a link of a healthy pic for you. Here is a link that might be useful: Canna Cleopatra

an alternative for you with old versions of windows is the Kaspersky Rescue Disc. This is a version of the very well known Kaspersky virus scan which runs from a cd, you put it in your cd drawer then boot up the pc so it boots from the cd, you then run the virus scan from the cd. It works with all versions of windows. The thing is that you have to have a cd burner on your pc that will burn an ISO disc, if you don't there are free ones available. You have to go burn the latest version of the disc each time you want to run your scan so that you know you have the latest virus definitions. This is also handy for those that can not get into their windows to run a scan, you can usually boot the pc from the cd even when you can not boot into windows. This is just for running a scan this does NOT provide any type of real time protection at all this just lets you run a scan on your pc with out installing any programs. It would be much better to find some type of real time protection that still works on 98. Here is the link Kaspersky Rescue Disk You download the ISO file to your pc then you take that ISO file and burn it to a cd using the ISO burn setting. YOU must use the ISO setting in your burner. AN ISO file is an image file and will not work unless burned as such. link to info on the free isoburner if you should need it ISO Burner check your current cd burner it probably does do ISO burning most of the major ones like nero etc do.