Help! Miele 4800 problem.
texas_fire
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sshrivastava
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Help me solve Miele Install Problem
Comments (2)Greendesigns, I have seen several (most actually) Miele gallery pictures that do NOT show wood or cabinets in between the Miele appliances . Perhaps it is there, but is behind the mount/face plates. If you haven't seen this let me know and I will post links that clearly show this. The above install, albeit very nice, is NOT how I see most Miele installs. Thanks...See MoreQuick Rinse before main wash...Miele W4842/4840/4800
Comments (33)Heated or not heated prewash ? that's the question ;) The misundersanding is all inside the word "COLD" that is ambiguously used by Miele Chech all the tempeature settings in the W48XX : No heat = tap cold - cold fill only IMHO (but not only mine) prewash has to have a drain before the main wash (that will be carried with fresh water), otherwise it would be just a extended main wash. COLD = 30°C = 85°F ("almost warm" were less misunderstanding) Warm = 40°C = 105°F Very warm = 50°C = 120°F Hot = 60°C = 140°F Sanitize = 70°C = 160°F So the heater in the prewash engages or doesn't depending on the target temp AND on hot water line actual temp....See MoreMiele W4800 new user experience
Comments (150)I have Miele appliances in my home and like them. I bought my first Miele appliance, a DW and then a washer before I ever knew this forum existed. I never even heard about Miele from anyone...so I am not interested in snob appeal or prestige. I bought my stuff because it was advertised to last a long time and so far having Miele for 12 years things having been going along with out problems. The heater issue: If anyone from Germany walked down a supermarket isle, or watched any TV shows with advertisements they would quickly realize that folks in the U.S.A are in love with chlorine Bleach. It is everywhere, and most of us use it. So this machine was made with a bleach dispenser - for us. If you use bleach there is no need for high temps. The first thing people in the USA balk at with older Miele washers is the fact that they use 220V. Every time my neighbors look at the washer they go into a snit and say..well it needs 220V - I'm not doing that. So by adding the bleach feature which the general population LOVES, it enabled them to use 120V, and allow folks to bleach the death out of everything...getting things clean, white and sanitized. Voltage obstacle removed. My older unit will heat the water to boiling temps...but I rarely need it. Everything even whites come out just fine at a temp of 120F using a cycle that lasts 48 minutes. Sometimes I increase the temp to 140F but this is rare and almost never use a boiling temp. The advantage of 220V is that the washer can heat this hot very very fast if you need it...but with chlorine bleach you won't. So I think for the general population the lack of heat on the normal cycle(which is also not present on some other machines sold in the U.S.A) will not be a deal breaker for them. I am interested in having appliances that will last more than the current 6 or 7 year life expectancy we have now, and I expect to fix my units when they need servicing rather than immediately thinking about replacing them. Replacing is the first thing we think of isn't it? --"Well it's broken, I need a new one" Then we have fun and make ourselves feel good buying something new. It will be interesting to see how long these new super-sized units last....See MoreCalling All Miele W4800 Users Input Wanted
Comments (19)@ sshrivastava: Regarding the animated display: I'm not saying it can't be done but I think it won't be done. Miele does not even sell washers in any other color other than white (besides that one Chocolate Edition in Canada). Even their fanciest products have the same orange display. The only item, it seems, where Miele does allow several different colors are their vacuum cleaners. Their newest S6 line even comes wrapped in velvet. It's not only Miele that uses water softeners in dishwashers. Every single dishwasher manufacturer in Europe uses them. Again, not saying it can't be done or that it wouldn't be a good/interesting idea - I'm just saying that I don't see it happening any time soon. @ livebetter: Bosch makes some good appliances and very efficient ones, too. Even in green Europe, they are continuously bringing out appliances that are a little more efficient than all the others. Technically, the fill and drain hoses on the Miele washer are no problem as they should really be long enough to reach behind the dryer. The dryer, however, can be a problem because you will obviously have to add extra venting to connect the dryer's vent to the opening in the wall. This should add two more elbows, which can be problematic if there is already a long vent run to the outside. The Bosch washer is .24 cu.ft. larger, which means roughly one lbs. more capacity. Bosch calls it AquaStop - Miele Waterproof. Same technology. Unfortunately, there are very few videos of the Vision online. This one shows Miele's venting process on the Comforters cycle. How much more or less water the Bosch uses - I don't know. Regarding the max temperature: well, my washer can go up to 203F and I never use it. 140F is the highest temp I use, so 158 would be hot enough for me. Both washers will heat the water whenever needed - except for Miele's "Normal" cycle, I think. Both washers have cold-only rinses. The Bosch dryer does not reverse tumble. 100 rpm won't make much of a difference. "Spin Speed Optimized Drying Time" just gives you a better initial estimation of the time left to dry the load and that "DynamicAir" technology... Miele also has a very powerful blower but it's just not given a special name. Miele probalby makes the better washer/dryer but those doors and the venting... HTH, Alex...See Moresshrivastava
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12 years agoTexas Fire,
Early on Miele had several issues with the original W 48XX series regarding the door latch and sagging door. A retrofit kit was released help address these issues by Miele that included a new latch/switch assembly. Can you please tell me whether your door latch looks like the following? Please comment on both the chrome catch end shape, and the roller receiver. Your wife slamming the door would have no bearing on the switch assembly longevity. Miele did several modifications over the course of this model series to improve the latch and door.
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