Distance between countertop and upper cabinets?
teaforwendy
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Comments (27)Rather than adhering to the customary standard of 18 in. or just randomly picking something different, I think a better way would be to just consider exactly what you want to be able to do - whether reaching higher shelves is more important than storage underneath the upper cabinets, etc. For example, I asked the cabinet maker to install our upper cabinets at 16 inches for several reasons: 1) I am so tired of stretching to reach upper cabinets - and I'm not that short (5' 5")!! My current cabinets (only have 2 of them though - it's a tiny kitchen) are 23 inches (yes, you read that right!) and extend to the ceiling which is 9 ft. Needless to say, it's almost impossible to reach anything other than the first shelf - I can stretch to reach the very edge of the second but usually feel as if I've pulled a muscle afterward - haha. 2) I also wanted to coordinate the height of the cabinets with the windows and do not want the cabinets to reach the ceiling (which is coffered), so was a bit limited - 18 in. would have been slightly too much. 3) I'm not worried about storage space under the upper cabinets because there are so many windows (as well as an island) that there will be plenty of space to use small appliances, etc without running into the cabinets. We don't use anything currently that would be stored on the countertop anyway. 4) As for resale, I would never think of actually measuring the height of cabinets (unless they were REALLY high) and even if I did, it wouldn't prevent me from buying a house (obviously, since my current kitchen is horrible!). I realize that there are definitely people who care about those things much more than I do though, so will just have to take that chance with resale :) Other ideas could simply be integrating a variety of heights (seemed to be trendy for a while to do that), including cabinets that extend down to the counter or have those appliance garages at the bottom....See MoreSlightly shorter distance between counter & uppers?
Comments (10)Thanks, everyone, for the encouragement! Exactly what I was thinking, OOTM_Mom; it's a toaster oven cubby so I likely can treat it differently than my uppers elsewhere in the kitchen. It will only be 26.5" wide so it would never do as a baking center. If I were to get rid of the toaster oven and store the KA mixer there instead, it would only be stored there, never used there. I'll have a 59" island that I'll use for baking projects. Our coffee maker is on the counter over the DW, between sink and fridge. The only other appliance we keep out is the toaster, which will stay where it currently is, on the counter by the back door; bread is stored in a drawer below it. localeater, the toaster oven vents out the sides, not out the back or top. The instructions warn that the top can get warm - it can be used as a plate warmer - but even with the upper 15" above the toaster oven, I'll still have 4.5" of clearance above it, which is more than the required side clearances, so I think it will be fine. I've checked it when it's in use and I don't feel heat emanating more than an inch or two above the oven. The bottom of the current upper never feels warm, much less hot. If I can make the cubby a little less tall, I may increase the base cab height so that the toaster oven is closer to eye level, maybe at the same height as the Advantium (48" above floor). That would give me room for either an additional drawer or taller cab storage or both below the toaster oven cubby. Perhaps something like this: [[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/mill-valley-open-kitchen-and-dining-room-contemporary-kitchen-san-francisco-phvw-vp~1860951) [Contemporary Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/contemporary-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2103) by San Francisco Design-Build Firms Nerland Building & Restoration, Inc. Notice that the venting for the toaster oven is above it. I thought maybe that was because that toaster oven vents above, not to the sides, but it sure looks like my Breville toaster oven. If so, that doesn't seem like a good idea at all. The toaster oven cubby in this kitchen is definitely less than 18" high. [[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/kitchen-and-dining-traditional-kitchen-new-orleans-phvw-vp~2393877) [Traditional Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/traditional-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2107) by Pensacola Architects & Building Designers Dalrymple : Sallis Architecture 'Course, I've seen enough poorly designed kitchens on houzz so I shouldn't assume that if it's done in this kitchen or others, it's okay. I will definitely double check with my KD, contractor and cab maker before moving ahead with this idea....See MoreDistance of upper cabinets from the counter
Comments (7)I agree with Designsaavy. As you noted, 18" distance is standard, and that allows for a couple of inches for the light rail. Making that distance 20-22" means that you are foregoing those inches in cabinetry space. There's no rule against it, but you may need a stepstool more than you would with the standard 18" distance. You could put some painter's tape on the wall at that height of 20-22", stand in front of it, and imagine reaching into that cabinet, and see how it feels. If you want to "lighten the load visually" as you said, make some of the cabinet doors clear glass. There was a recent thread about glass cabinet doors, with a bunch of photos, if you do a search....See More18” or 20” distance from counter?
Comments (14)Depends on how tall the kitchen users are. I was in my cousin's kitchen the other day and her upper cabinets are very high. She commented on how irritating it was to have to get a stool to reach the second shelves. Ours are 18" and I think they're a good compromise between having enough room underneath to put small appliances and still being able to reach the second and--just barely-the third shelves for me....See Moreteaforwendy
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