For those looking for Charlie's Soap!

15 years ago

For those that use Charlie's Soap, I have discovered that it is repackaged under several different brands such as "Sport-Wash" which is sold in the camping section at Wal-Mart. It is also sold as Penguin Sport Wash which is sold in sporting goods stores and some supermarkets. Other brands that are really Charlie's are Nellie's Washing Soda, Wonder Wash and New Balance Athletic Wear Wash. The easiest to find is Sport-Wash at Wal-Mart. It sells for about $4.27 for 18 ounces. They also sell a larger bottle during hunting season which sells for $5.99 for 34 ounces. If you catch them when the hunting stuff goes on clearance it sells for only $3.99 for 34 oz.!

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sspye
15 years ago
...thanks eligain. Even if they are the same product/company. Charlie's soap is still the better deal online, if you buy with the discount (2 products) from their website. (I only did the math for the powdered.) I will watch for the clearance in the hunting aisle.

80 Loads = $13.79 or .17 cents +/- per load
1280 Loads = $126.33 or .10 cents +/- per load
cpccarolyn_2008
15 years ago
How do you know it is the same as Charlie's Soap??
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I wonder if anyone else is as sick and tired of the run-around that these two brands (Charlies and Sensi-Clean/Sportwash)are doing to people. It should be a federal law that they disclose all chemcials in these products. I spent countless hours trying to get the ingredients and got the same old "trade secret" crap. I am tired of the game they are playing with consumers and will not buy anything from anyone that does not tell me what is in it. You could be killing yourself and not know it and paying money for it on top of that. These company(ies) have only their best interests and fat wallets in mind. They can put anything into their detergents including cancer causing chemicals and you are buying it and putting it on your children (it isn't rinsing out 100% no matter what they say) or in their ground water (imagine 2 loads everyday, 7 days a week going into your soil-it adds up)especially if you have a drinking well it winds up there eventually. I now beleive they are the same and I won't buy either of these products again and will keep looking for an honest company that I don't have to worry about every time I put a load of clothing in my laundry machine.
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I was searching some information re: Nellie's today and found this article. If Nellie's is not Charlie's, as Taylor states above, then it must be made by them. "The product is imported from North Carolina and was originally designed to clean textile equipment" ... sounds exactly like CharlieÂs. I know there are numerous threads on this subject but I had to post a link to this article for those still wondering. Here is a link that might be useful: Nellie's made by Charlie's?
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@ ladeeanne I'm laughing at your jingle at the end, but NOT laughing about what CS did to your clothes. Most people love the product or hate it. Initially I had good results and said good things about the product, but over time I noticed my whites greying and starting to feel stiff. I emailed Charlie's and they suggested I use 2 TBS instead of 1 TBS per load. That didn't do anything. I have soft, conditioned water. I stopped using CS and went back to my trusted Persil. I've added Vaska and Clorox Green Works to the mix as well. Vaska, although a liquid only, is everything CS should have been. I'm sure CS works for some folks - there are many satisfied users. But because the product does not contain the usual ingredients you find in more mainstream products - soil suspension and color protection agents, water softeners and chelators, etc. - results will vary wildly depending on water conditions. People often criticize the mass merchandise products (Tide, Cheer, etc.) for having too many and possibly toxic ingredients. However, those products also perform rather uniformly across a wide variety of water conditions. Once you take away those ingredients, you must make sure that what you're using is suitable for your water conditions. This is the reason that Charlie's Soap now sells a product to use with CS in hard water conditions. A primary ingredient in CS is sodium carbonate. If you have hard water, that sodium carbonate will cause the calcium in the water to form a precipitate which will then settle back onto your clothes and washer parts. That may be what you're seeing in your dark clothes. Try soaking them overnight in vinegar to see if that can loosen or dissolve the calcium. You can also use citric acid, which can be purchased in your grocery store's dishwasher aisle as Lemi Shine. Throw a couple of tablespoons into your front loader and run a cycle with your ruined fabrics.
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Looks like my clipping link didn't work so well... so, here is the content. The following text is copied from a PDF I received from the Charlie's Soap people (topic = hard water) ***excerpt*** Water Quality and Laundry Problems Ann Vanderpoorten Beard Extension clothing and textiles specialist, The Texas A&M University System This paper has been altered (....) by me, Charlie Sutherland, only to clarify some terms and show how our Charlie's Soap relates to the report. Research on laundering has shown that many factors affect the cleanliness of the wash. One often ignored factor is the quality of the water used. Several laundry problems are directly related to minerals, organic matter, and other impurities in the water supply. Some laundry problems may have similar symptoms but more than one possible cause. To determine if a combination of factors or water quality alone is responsible for your laundry problem, consider your equipment, water, products and procedures. Problem: Hard Water Laundry Symptoms: Dinginess or graying, yellowing ÂGeneral soil build-up ÂStiff, harsh feel to fabrics ÂWhite or gray streaks on colored fabrics Calcium and magnesium are usually the minerals that make water hard. The greater the concentration of these minerals, the harder the water. Hard water doesn't clean as effectively as soft water. In hard water much of the detergent added to the washer goes to soften the water instead of to clean the clothes. This means that more detergent must be used than in soft water. Softening water by using more detergent has two drawbacks; it is expensive and if the detergent contains phosphate it can add to water pollution. Heavy duty liquid detergents will remove soil in hard water almost as effectively as powdered phosphate-built detergents and they do not contribute to water pollution. Normally, non-phosphate powdered detergents and soap do not perform satisfactorily in hard water. (Charlie's Soap is generally quite good, but very hard water needs some extra attention.) Solution: To prevent the problems caused by hard water, First, use water as hot as recommended for the fabric since all detergents perform better at higher temperatures in any quality water. Second, soften the water. Water may be softened in the washer with nonprecipitating ion-exchange water conditioners* (these are the phosphates you were just warned about), commonly sold in grocery stores simply as water conditioners. Water softener systems which exchange sodium for calcium and magnesium may also be connected to the water supply lines for the washer, the kitchen, or for the entire house. However, persons on sodium-restricted diets should consult their physicians before adding a water softener system to lines that supply water for drinking and cooking because the sodium content of the water will increase. To remedy problems that have already occurred, fill the washer with the hottest water appropriate for the fabric. Add (a double scoop of Charlie's Soap Powder) and one cup on nonprecipitating *(phosphate) water conditioner. Agitate just long enough to wet the clothes. Soak overnight or for about twelve hours. Drain and spin without agitating. Launder, using regular cycle, no detergent, and one cup of nonprecipitating *(phosphate) water conditioner. If needed, repeat the launderings using one cup of nonprecipitating *(phosphate) water conditioner and no detergent until no suds appear during the rinses. In order to remove all dinginess it may be necessary to launder with one cup nonprecipitating *(phosphate) water conditioner and chlorine bleach if safe for the fabric, following package instructions for the amount of bleach to use. ***end of excerpt***
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eligain
Original Author
15 years ago
"How do you know it is the same as Charlie's Soap??"

If you compare the ingredients and the wording of the products, you will see they are the same. They all tout the same fact that they rinse residue free even at 4 time the normal dose. They all also tout the same Clemson University tests and they all have the same 1 ounce dose. Also, having used both Charlie's liquid and Sport Wash, they booth smell the same, have the same consistancy, react the same in the washer and clean the same. My clothes smell the same after they are washed in both.
jerrod6
15 years ago
What is this smell you are talking about? What fragrance does CS leave and is it strong?
sspye
15 years ago
CS leaves no scent and is why it is perfect for hunting clothing.

I asked the same question of Charlie Sutherland a couple of weeks ago. Here is my question and his response.

> My question is about hunting clothes. Does Charlie's rinse scent free
> or do I still need to use my 'forest floor' liquid for my husband's hunting clothes?

Denise,

I believe you will be very happy with our Charlie's as a hunting detergent..... There are absolutely no scents in it and residue free as well.

Charlie
eligain
Original Author
15 years ago
Charlie's and Sportwash etc. theoretically have no scent but it does leave you clothes with a very clean smell, like they were line dried in the sun! Other "free" detergents like Cheer Free leave your clothes with a kind of petroleum smell.
cynic
15 years ago
There was quite a controversy about this about a year ago as I recall. As I recall, the companies involved denied any association even given the coincidental items. Perhaps they're made by the same company but a slightly different formula, which would not be surprising. There's a guy that posts here often selling Charlie's that can comment on it. I'd be interested in his response.
eligain
Original Author
15 years ago
There was a past thread by a lola3816 that said that the guy taking orders over the phone at Charlie's accidently spilled the beans on them making Sport Wash as well. If you have both products and compare how they wash, you will see they are the same. Check out all there websites and their claims. If it looks like a duck and smells like a duck and cleans like a duck, it's Charlie's. ; )

http://www.atsko.com/products/laundry-care/sport-wash-residue-free-detergent.html

http://www.penguinsportwash.com/sport.html

www.wonderwash.net
garrdav
15 years ago
I am a avid user of Charlie's Soap. I have tried Sport Wash from the hunting section at Walmart as well as Nellie's Washing Soda and I wouldn't be suprized if they are all the same product because they all clean exactly the same. They all left my clothes smelling the same and cleaned with the same effectiveness. You use the same amount of all products and they all clean with the same amount of low suds. So if they aren't the same product then Charlie's may need to sue!
Tracey_OH
15 years ago
I saw the Penguin sports wash at Kroger yesterday and it was $9.99 for a very small bottle. I want to try this stuff, but not at those prices. I'll check out Walmart and see how much it is there.

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happymomof2kids
15 years ago
I had ordered some a little while ago even though I had the Cheer hear and tried some of the Tide liquid, but I couldn't resist after seeing the reviews here.

When I had my reg TL, I was using All free clear as the other ones irritated our skin. Hanging up laundry didn't seem to be a problem with hardness so I thought nothing of it. My clothing came out a little stiff, but not concrete.

I had heard that the FL rinsed better so people with sensitivities could use anything as their was no residue, so I bought leading national brands. We had no reactions, but my line dried clothes have gone from stiff to concrete and I had to start using my drier again.

After trying the Charlies, my clothes are gradually going from concrete back to the state I am use to. Plus, they may get softer still. I like it so much, I don't even want to use up the rest of the Cheer I have here.

I have also tried it on cleaning different things around the house and it is excellent. Definitely worth ordering.
momof3kids
15 years ago
Did anyone ever confirm this claim that the Walmart product is the same?-Waiting for my CS to ship- just wondering in case I run out.
blue_velvet_elvis
15 years ago
So, it's now hunting season here. Has anyone seen this on the shelves at WM?
nsaids_nurse420 Kirker
15 years ago
yep here in ohio it is widely available.
kitchendetective
15 years ago
I've not seen it at any Walmart in my area and have looked. Found it under another name at Cabela's, but it was expensive. I like it though. Where is everyone getting theirs? Are you including postage in your price per load?
Tracey_OH
15 years ago
I found it at my Walmart (Tennessee)in the hunting section for around $5.00 and have been using it for two weeks. I have a FL and am using a capfull or less per load. So far I've been very impressed with this stuff. It doesn't produce many suds and it rinses well. It also seems to be good at getting out stains, and I have two very active dirty boys :). I add STPP to all my loads, so I can't comment on how well it does on it's own. I will definitely be buying this again.

Tracey

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