Miele washer and musty clothing
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Musty Towels...left wet in the washer.
Comments (18)I've heard this scare before and did some research. I can find no reputable source which confirms that Tide has ever contained chlorine bleach. What got me to research this a bit is that it just doesn't make sense when you use some logic and common sense! Chlorine bleach kills enzymes which are a big part of the cleaning performance on most P&G laundry detergent products. Furthermore, if you read the labels on both bleach and laundry detergents, most recommend if you use chlorine bleach, you should add the chlorine bleach about 10 minutes (or so) into the cycle. This is consistent with the above since it gives the enzymes the chance to do their job and it doesn't matter if they get killed off. Then the bleach has the chance to do its job. I understand caution about mixing chemicals, but some people go overboard about it. Theory isn't fact. The major explosions that are a potential just haven't proven to be as dangerous as some suggest. I can't even find one documented explosion. Are there some safety concerns? Yes. Should we be running around like Chicken Little claiming the sky is falling? No. Good grief, some people would have Homeland Security at the checkouts to see if we're buying bleach and ammonia! Use common sense and be educated. That's the best recommendation I can give. After all, we're talking about washing clothes here fer cryin out loud! :) Back onto original topic: I like Borax and vinegar as the most common additives in laundry and especially for smells. I'd use the Borax first, then try the vinegar. If you have a chance to hang the items outside in bright sunshine it can do a marvelous job of deodorizing unless you're in a neighborhood with bad odors anyway! I would also run an empty load in the washer with bleach and maybe a Borax cycle too with hottest water to deodorize the machine itself. Occasionally I sense a sour smell in my machine if I haven't done many hot loads and will do this as a maintenance item. Worked well for me. And no explosions! ;) Happy laundering everyone....See MoreProblems with new front load washer not getting clothes clean
Comments (24)Yes, these washing machines are a Total JOKE! Your clothes smell because there is not an adequate amount of water. Clothing is NOT SUBMERGED in soapy water. Instead, they are splashed with a puddle of water that supposedly cleans them. It does not. Samsung, if you think it does, then tell me which scenario of cleaning would be preferred A or B? Scenario A) Your aging father who recently moved in your home is bedridden, incontinent & will sometimes have an accident. Today was a different story. Today he's in your bed while his is being replaced, he not only pees in your bed but he souls himself with a large amount of loose stool (diarrhea) all over your bed. So you toss the smelly, poopy & urine stained bedding in your Samsung so your blankets can be splashed with soapy water. with this method, NONE of your bedding is submerged in water, nor is it agitated. Instead it gently flops back and forth as it is similar to being tossed around in a shallow puddle. A water limit of 13 gallons will be used and reused to get them "clean." Scenario B) Everything above is identical but instead of using your Samsung, you use a MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE ( about $800 less ) top loader. This machine will COMPLETELY SUBMERGE your poopy soiled linens in plenty of hot soapy water while it rapidly oscillates and strongly agitates the laundry as soapy water is forced through the fibers repeatedly. Finally, as it's draining soiled water it fills with clean water then partially drains and filling is repeated until clothes are submerged in fresh clean water. So now I ask you this: Which of the 2 above loads do you choose to put back on your bed? Because I can assure you, if you tested both previously soiled sheets upon removing each from the washer, that the first one would test positive for fecal matter. I am lucky enough to have purchased a latest model, regularly priced at $1400 Samsung front loader For $300 used. I'm also lucky my bf can build/modify just about anything and hacked to water level and also installed a hose with hot or cold water right next to it so I can fill it with the amount of water necessary to clean clothes, Not just wipe them down. Because that's pretty much what they do, lightly pat off the dirt. That does not clean the fabric that is why your "clean" laundry stinks. These machines are unacceptable in my book! If you have one of these front loaders, try this: take a laundered item and get a clear bucket, bowl, tub, sink, anything which will show the water and wash your item by hand and see what comes out of it. Water will be tan to brown. Rip-off!...See MoreSpin-Only Mode: Miele W1213/1215 Clothes Washer
Comments (10)You can extrapolate out from waltculver's great tip and access all the other modes in that menu. I do it often to add another manual rinse. Note that these are really just test modes of various cycles and are not automatic, hence the need to stop the mechanical ones. So, you can fill the tub, tumble, stop, drain, stop, spin, stop. Stop is one of the modes so you don't have to reenter the service menu. I wrote down a detailed listing of all the modes in the "U" menu last year after examining what each did. Let me see if I can find it. Otherwise I will list the ones I committed to memory. Those of curious bent can investigate on your own. Just stay in "U" menu and cycle through all the modes with the start-stop button to see what you can do. For most people this is of limited usefulness because of the manual nature but for a certain kind of person it will be useful. I can say with good certainty there is no danger using these modes unless you forget to turn it off and leave the house. You are not changing any settings. Exploring anything outside the "U" menu is uncharted territory and you are on your own....See MoreClothes Washers - water temp effects on stain removal
Comments (0)This article outlines some of the effects of water temperature on cleaning performance in a clothes washer - specifically, the removal of various types of stains. The experimental data below serves to illustrate the importance of proper water temp, and one of the advantages of having an internal heater in a clothes washer (that can reach these "very high" wash temps). [See also the related FAQ article, "Clothes Washers - Internal Heater Advantages ??".] This is a simple test, washing various "tough" stains with a measured dose of a given detergent and no pre-treatment. [Report first posted in the Appliances Forum by Alice (Alice_61) on 22 September 2002 in the "Technical Suds Part 2" thread - thanks, Alice!]: ------------------------------ The effect of temperature on stain removal in the Miele W1918A washer I washed a stain strip with a 10 lb. load of cottons and 2 oz (by weight) of Tide HE powder in the Intensive Cotton cycle, using each of the available temperatures on the Miele W1918A: 85F (30C), 105F (40C), 120F (50C), 140F (60C), 155F (70C), 180F (80C), and 190F (90C). RESULTS First, a few general comments before I get into the particulars of specific stains: 1. Before these stain tests, I had choosen wash temperatues strictly according to the user's guide. Because we have so few whites, I had never done a wash above 140F. I was willing to go to higher temperatures with the test load, because it consisted of old clothes and rag material. After trying the 190F wash, I was very impressed at how colorfast most items were. There were a couple of things that colored the drain water (colored jeans), so I replaced them with other items for the test load. 2. The white background of the stain swatches was much whiter at the higher wash temperatures. This didn't become too noticable until 155F, and increased to a very bright white at 190F. It seems from this and the better stain removal of certain stains, that the bleach was becoming more active at higher temperatures. 3. I used some old, cheap (the 12/$3.00 type) wash clothes for the test load. We had gotten to the point of using them as cleaning clothes. After about 25 washings with the test load, many at high temperatures and some with considerable detergent doses, these wash clothes were very clean and bright. I happened to find some identical wash clothes stashed away and compared them to these very washed ones. Not only were the very washed ones much cleaner and brighter than the old ones, they did not seem any more faded than the old ones. In fact, they looked a whole lot better. Perhaps greying of the old washclothes made them seem less colored. I think this and #1 alleviates my concern about fading at high temperatures, at least for colorfast items. 4. The detergent perfume smell is considerably reduced by washing at high temperature. I didn't really notice this until the last two loads (180 and 190F) so I can't say exactly at which temperature this occured. SPECIFIC STAINS Blueberry juice and grape juice: These stains certainly responded well to increased temperature. I'll describe the results for blueberry juice. Grape juice is similar. At 85 and 120F, the stain was not oxidized (it remained blue) and not much was removed. At 120F oxidation started (turned brown) and the stain was lighter, though still with distinct edges at 120. At 155F and above, the stain was lighter and more diffuse. By 190F, the stain was still a light brown but one has to look for it. Tomato sauce: This stain also benefited from heat. At 85F, it was a yellow stain. It got progressively lighter up to 155F, then stayed about the same: a light, but still noticable stain. In another test, the remainder of this stain was removed by soaking in a sodium percarbonate solution. Avacado: This oily stain also benfited from heat. It progressed from a fairly dark grey-green at 85F to a much lighter shade at 180F. Grass stain: This result was interesting to me because it was not what I expected. I had expected that grass stain would do better at a low temperature, since it is a protein based stain. However, the stains from 85 to 140F varied some in intensity, but were visible. The stains at 155F and above were not visible. Blood: Likewise, this protein based stain was almost, but not completely removed at 85, 105, and 120F. It was completely removed at higher temperatures. In addition, the white was quite a bit whiter at higher tempertures. Chocolate syrup: All the washes left about the same intensity stain, faint, but clearly visable. In a different experiment, I was able to remove the remaining chocolate stain by soaking it in a sodium percarbonate solution. Dirt (clay): This common stain proved to be a very difficult stain to remove completely. The stain seemed to show a little response to temperature. The stain left for 85, 105, and 120F were a prominent orange. It was slightly better for 140 and 155F. For 180 and 190F, the stain was better, but still noticeable. Later bleaching with sodium percarbonate did not improve the stain. Soaking in white vinegar afterward did not, either. I plan to try a rust remover and a couple of pretreatments. Used motor oil: This is a really tough stain. As expected, the stain improved with higher temperatured. At 85F, the stain was quite dark and by 190F, it was about 1/2 as dark, but still quite noticeable. SUMMARY Stain removal of all of the stains, with the exception of chocolate syrup improved at higher temperatures, often temperatures above that usually recommended for colored clothing. I would like to find an easy way to test for colorfastness, since high temperature is a powerful stain removal aid. In choosing between washers with various top temperatures, it is useful to know what difference in stain removal the top temperature might make. For those of us challanged weekly by stained laundry, it seems a very high temperature would be a plus. Alice ------------------------------ [first added to Appliances FAQ: 21 October 2002] [added to Laundry FAQ: 21 May 2003]...See Moresuseyb
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